Do Bray W own the Carlisle Grounds?
I've never used its toilets, but I do think Carlisle is a nice little ground. I'll have to check out the facilities next time though, see what 400K buys!
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Independent article is now longer, and here: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30936986.html
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Only seems longer, as it (like RTE.ie yesterday) quotes the club statement in full. The only additional element is a mention of the Quigley dispute, first time in the national media I think. FAI money can be explained, and FAI will help craft the response, I feel, unless there is a real vendetta being waged against former Directors, who didn't always see eye-to-eye with JD (not to put too fine a point on it).
Possibly the real worry is the reference in the club statement:
"Regrettably, over the past few weeks the Club has become aware of attempts to prevent the proposed new administration taking place and canvassing the Club to engage in a commercial property development of the Carlisle Grounds."
The long-term lease at the Carlisle was achieved only after lengthy lobbying, and in the face of stiff resistance by a rump of public representatives. It wouldn't take a lot to raise the question again, and there would be a fair amount of hostility if the bad publicity continues.
Not that the lease itself would be queried, but if there was any legal loophole at all, there would be those who would wish to use it ...
If their is a fraud charge to be answered surley its a criminal case against The directors of the club at the time the alleged incident happened rather than the club itself.
So I cant see it being a major issue for Bray & its new owners.
Just noticed Darren Quigley giving it some on twitter.
He's really not helping himself taking pop shots at anyone remotely attached to bray, he needs to just put up or shut up at this stage
On one hand I agree, there is a way to do things but on the other hand it seems, going by his tweets, that Bray are basically trying to put him off long enough in the hope he gives up.
Solicitors letter from Bray saying he earns €200 PW while contract says €100 PW.
That's not the contract he's owed money on. He claims he's owed money for coaching (as per solicitors letters)
He's shown playing contracts, several letters and hasn't provided the contract he's owed money on
If it was about playing wages the PFAI would be on it.
So the only logical conclusion is that he was being paid off the books by agreement with the former board/manager.
It's clear he has been ****ed about by the old Bray crowd but if he was happy to work off the books for them, then he has to take some responsility for the mess
EDIT: oh and another thing that probably points to something a bit murky here is the complete lack of media coverage this is getting. Where players are owed money, the papers are usually all over it. It's only a guess but I think the journos here are leaving this alone as its even too messy for them. It clearly isn't an open and shut 'player owed wages' story
Last edited by Dodge; 07/02/2015 at 8:31 AM.
A contract of employment doesn't have to be in writing. Obviously you're entitled to be provided with a written one but it doesn't necessarily mean he's not owed the coaching money just because he doesn't have one. I'd imagine a lot of coaches in LOI don't have written contracts. That said it'll be difficult to prove if it's just his word against Bray's. He'd need ex players or staff to back him up and presumably they don't want to for whatever reason.
Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.
The contract is also void if either side is aware that statutory obligations aren't being met
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