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**�anna** · 14/01/2002, 2:45 PM

Originally posted by Troy.McClure

Almost all of the "Gunther Out" brigade have been anti-Gunther since the start, and most have freely admitted it. "I never wanted Gunther to be the manager in the first place" has been said by many people here. Why were ye so against him from the start? He was a first time manager (which could be one aregument) but with that comes a clean slate - no failures. I waited until the end of the first series games of last season before forming my opinions on Mountfield as a manager. I did the same for Murphy. More people here should try to be more objective

it's because of gunthers treasonous behaviour under mountfield that i hate the guy. he bore a huge amount of the responsibility for DM's departure. you wouldn't believe some of the stuff the guy has got away with. i'm not going posting it here, but i have heard from several people involved that liam murphy was more reponsible than any of the "gang of 5". that's why i want him out. he showed under DM he had no loyalty to this club, and that kind of thing doesn't change.

**James** · 14/01/2002, 2:54 PM

Originally posted by �anna

he had no loyalty to this club, and that kind of thing doesn't change.

sry eanna but this coming from a city fan that has a sig file of "i love longford"

Unbeleivable

**Troy.McClure** · 14/01/2002, 2:56 PM

Tynan :
I would have liked it if he stayed, but if he was that good then he would have joined Shels. Instead he is playing for Kilkenny City in the 1st division & Im not to sure that he is even a regular for them! Im sad that he went, but then again I dont think that he ever delivered with his final shots/crosses, he missed some sitters! Also he was built like a stick and was far to easy to knock off the ball. Its a shame that we didnt get to see more of him but I think that we can live without him.

Herrick:
He takes 1/2 an hour to pass the ball, every one knows that, and if you dont then you're blind! There was often a collective groan when he got the ball because you knew that he would get dispossed.I cant fault him for commitment to the club, but it takes more than wanting to be good, to be good! We wernt going to win the league with him in the middle of the pitch.

Kelvin:
A solid tackeler and good at dead balls but was never fit enough to make the impact needed. A nice guy Im sure, like Herrick, but "Burgers" says it all

Colin:
Not skillful enough. Not fit enough since his knee problem. Nuff said

O Rourke:
Hardly an integral part of the team now was he?

Greg:
Is still with the team but if we could get a bit of money for him then I would gladly see him go. Lots of tallent, lots of red & yellow cards

With the exception of Greg (IMO), all of the people that went are gents and very genuine nice people, but their job was to win matches, not the Noble peace prize. O'Grady + Bennett are times better than Flanagan + Herrick and ye know it. We need a propper right winger, thats obvious, but having some one just for the sake of having some one is not the answer.

Also, did anybody notice that all of the players that left went to crap clubs?

**Peadar** · 14/01/2002, 2:57 PM

Originally posted by �anna
you wouldn't believe some of the stuff the guy has got away with. i'm not going posting it here, but i have heard from several people involved that liam murphy was more reponsible than any of the "gang of 5".

�anna I'm sick of you and your gang of 5 rubbish.
You go on and on about what you know and all the secrets you've been privey to.
I may not be able to prove that you blabbed the rubbish to Johnny Ward about Mulligan but I'd be willing to bet money on it and let me tell you �anna I'll be carefull what I say to you in future.
Call yourself a supporter?
All you seem to be doing is trying to destroy the club.

**Pablo** · 14/01/2002, 3:51 PM

did i miss something about O'Rourke? is he gone too?

**Peadar** · 14/01/2002, 4:00 PM

Originally posted by Pablo
did i miss something about O'Rourke? is he gone too?

Wasn't he on the bench last Saturday?
I know it was cold and wet but I'm sure I saw him warming up?

**James** · 14/01/2002, 4:16 PM

no youre right peadar sry was thinking of Dave Moore who was shipped off to Waaaaterford

**�anna** · 15/01/2002, 3:03 PM

Originally posted by Peadar

�anna I'm sick of you and your gang of 5 rubbish.
You go on and on about what you know and all the secrets you've been privey to.
I may not be able to prove that you blabbed the rubbish to Johnny Ward about Mulligan but I'd be willing to bet money on it and let me tell you �anna I'll be carefull what I say to you in future.
Call yourself a supporter?
All you seem to be doing is trying to destroy the club.

thats just crap and you know it. i've never posted anything i've been asked not to repeat- thats a fact.
what rubbish about mulligan? what happened with mulligan was fact.
you need to get off other people's backs and calm down a bit.
i'm simply giving the bigger picture. there's a lot of people who don't know half of what went on, and it's their money paying for the club, so they deserve to know. i've no problem with you disagreeing with me- hell it makes the whole thing more interesting- but calling my opinions (most of them based on FACT) rubbish is out of order.
i'm not even going to reply to your comment about destroying the club, because it's not worth it- anyway, you know at least as much as i do about those kind of people.

**�anna** · 15/01/2002, 3:05 PM

also- yes it was me who passed that story ointo JW. he has asked me to pass any stories i hear onto him, and i was asked by the person who told me to pass it on. i was merely the messenger. if you gave me a story about how great gunther was and it was true- i'd do the same.

**James** · 15/01/2002, 3:19 PM

Originally posted by �anna
if you gave me a story about how great gunther was and it was true - i'd do the same.

as if

what are the odds....any give me 1000/1

**pete** · 15/01/2002, 3:29 PM

Originally posted by �anna
also- yes it was me who passed that story ointo JW. he has asked me to pass any stories i hear onto him, and i was asked by the person who told me to pass it on. i was merely the messenger.

Is there any chance you were being used by this mystery man �anna?

The article on JWs site says Jamsie was rumoured to be transfer listed & theres been no indication that is true.

**�anna** · 15/01/2002, 3:42 PM

perhaps Pete. all i told anyone was that i had heard a rumour that mulligan was on the list. thats what i heard and thats what i said. it appears to have turned out to be untrue so the rumour was wrong.
i can't be blamed for passing on information, unless i distorted it, which i didn't.
storm in a tea-cup really.