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    UEFA fine?

    Listening to good old Dessie Cahill on RTE this morning. Referred to Prso not playing tonight and that it would be a relief that there's be no anti Rangers booing.

    He then said he had been talking to the guy who reported the FAI to UEFA over the Arveladze booing and mentioned that we had been fined as a result.

    Did this actually happen? Its news to me!
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    I've got no beef with booing to show a terrible ref or a cheating player how I feel but to boo a player because he plays with a certain club is pathetic. P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C. Hopefully that's self-righteous enough. If anyone wants to boo players because of their club, they can catch the next game in Windsor Park, apparently it's appreciated there. Keep it out of Lansdowne.

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    what a ridiculous statement, on the one hand you say its ok to boo a ref and on the other not a player. What if the ref is black is it ok to boo him then for fear of being called racist? Listen player's have been booed for tens of years its part of football culture , keep yopur PC nonsense to your self

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy
    what a ridiculous statement, on the one hand you say its ok to boo a ref and on the other not a player. What if the ref is black is it ok to boo him then for fear of being called racist? Listen player's have been booed for tens of years its part of football culture , keep yopur PC nonsense to your self
    I hate PC nonsense as much as the next guy, but yours is the ridiculous statement.

    If an opposing player calls your club sh!te, or your fans scum, you boo him.
    If a former player takes the cash and heads to your rivals, you boo him.
    If a player commits a bad tackle, or dives looking for a free (as Pires did in France) then boo him.
    If a ref denies your team a clear-cut peno, you boo him.

    That's the type of booing that's been 'part and parcel' of Football for years.
    It's got fcuk all to do with OK2Boo and the associated morons

    The booing of Rangers players isn't even being done by proper Celtic fans FFS, if it was then Tugay would have been booed when the Turks were in town, but he wasn't.
    If it was then the boo-boys would have recognised Peter Lovenkrands and not gone on an announcers say-so.
    And why, because the boo-boys are a bunch of johnny-come-lately fans who only took an interest after Rangers failed to do ten in a row and after Martin O'Neill took over.

    So don't give me that booing the opposition sh1te, it's a new development perpetrated by scumbags who have no place on a football terrace or stand, who wouldn't recognise a Celtic Player from before '99 if he walked up and hit them in the arse with a banjo.

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    the only booing tonite will be at milo and deleany
    save the sheep shaggers bring back beheadings for waherford

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    Quote Originally Posted by exile
    the only booing tonite will be at milo and deleany
    Correct, let's make sure they hear us proper.

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    Well said the last three posters -exile, robinski and especially tiktok.
    I'm sorry Prso isn't playing -for starters he's a bloody good player and what use are friendlies if you don't get to pit your team against top opposition.

    But I'm also sorry he's not playing because I think we need to start confronting these sectarian fcukers head on. We've already lost if we're glad Prso's not playing so the issue doesn't come up. Sooner or later it will come up again and these guys are gonna have to be told to shut the fcuk up or get the fcuk out.
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    Theres a lot in what you say but who decides when its ok to boo and when not? and how do you know who is doing the booing as per your statement.

    I dont know why you find my stement ridiculous FYI I've been going to landsdowne/dalymont for 30 yrs and I've nothing to do with ok2boo (whoever they are) Booing is not a new development

    I personally did not agree with booing arveladsze (or roy keane)but i would not seek to impose my view on anyone else

    Quote Originally Posted by tiktok
    I hate PC nonsense as much as the next guy, but yours is the ridiculous statement.

    If an opposing player calls your club sh!te, or your fans scum, you boo him.
    If a former player takes the cash and heads to your rivals, you boo him.
    If a player commits a bad tackle, or dives looking for a free (as Pires did in France) then boo him.
    If a ref denies your team a clear-cut peno, you boo him.

    That's the type of booing that's been 'part and parcel' of Football for years.
    It's got fcuk all to do with OK2Boo and the associated morons

    The booing of Rangers players isn't even being done by proper Celtic fans FFS, if it was then Tugay would have been booed when the Turks were in town, but he wasn't.
    If it was then the boo-boys would have recognised Peter Lovenkrands and not gone on an announcers say-so.
    And why, because the boo-boys are a bunch of johnny-come-lately fans who only took an interest after Rangers failed to do ten in a row and after Martin O'Neill took over.

    So don't give me that booing the opposition sh1te, it's a new development perpetrated by scumbags who have no place on a football terrace or stand, who wouldn't recognise a Celtic Player from before '99 if he walked up and hit them in the arse with a banjo.

    Rant Over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie
    But I'm also sorry he's not playing because I think we need to start confronting these sectarian fcukers head on.
    Sectarian, who said anything about it being sectarian??? I think you need to get a grip on your emotions

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiktok
    The booing of Rangers players isn't even being done by proper Celtic fans FFS
    I just want to make this clear, the booing of Rangers players was done by the vast majority of the crowd at Lansdowne before it got media attention. A few Celtic fans started the booing and the whole crowd caught on not knowing why. If you hear a few thousand people booing, you do so yourself.

    If people think it was a bunch of secterian's this will prove you wrong. Before we played Australia all the papers mentioned Kevin Muscat potentially being a victim of the views. Fran Rooney, Brian Kerr and all the papers came out and asked people to quit the booing. What happened? There was no booing Muscat against Australia. That just proves people were taking it too serious and if they were secterian they wouldn't stop booing just because they were asked.

    Whether you agree with the booing or not, it was nowhere near as serious as people make/made out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davros
    So CC fans have never booed an ex-Shels,Shams,Bohs player then(or vice versa) ,because of links......what about Tottenham & Arse;Leeds & Man.U;Wolves & W.Brom;Everton & Liverpool......been to all these games & heard plenty of ex-players,getting dogs'abuse for being traitors etc.Or to take to a national level,Alan 'Donkey' Kernaghan from the osc.,for being a 'turncoat'......

    Accept the point you make,but booing players(eg.Barca',with Figo;The T*ns with Alan Thompson;the osc.with Lennon;some Irish with the H*ns),not sporting I know,but alas 'part' of the game......personally,I've slagged off more people for being ManUre,myself

    DOn't see how any of these examples have any relevanve to what goes on at Landsdowne with Rangers players. There's a difference in booing someone who you regard as a traitor to your club when they return to play against your team or someone who played for one of your rivals. There is a particualr relevance to it. But this is an international match and and the guy is representing his country no one else so why should he be booed. I assume these guys wouldn't boo any EL player that was playing for Ireland in Landsdowne road even if he palyed for their most hated rivals in the EL (although somehow I don't think these gobsh*tes support the EL). Whether these people claim it isn't sectarian I am pretty sure that's how most other people view it. I certainly don't think giving Lennon as an example makes this any more acceptable. What happend to him was disgusting and we shouldn't be trying to emulate it.
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    its sectarian bullshít to a boo a rangers player. also, its utterly ridiculous to boo a player at an international game because of what club he plays for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davros
    So CC fans have never booed an ex-Shels,Shams,Bohs player then
    Not unless there was a history with him and the club e.g. Ollie Cahill, Alan reynolds. But to put it in CCFC terms, If Shel's keeper Steve Williams played for Wales (where he's from) against ireland, I wouldn't boo him because of his Shels connection.
    If you want to boo Rangers players during an OF game, off you go, there's a history between the clubs and you're rivals, just don't drag it into arenas where it's not relevant.
    That's as clear as I can make my position

    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy
    I dont know why you find my stement ridiculous FYI I've been going to landsdowne/dalymont for 30 yrs and I've nothing to do with ok2boo (whoever they are) Booing is not a new development
    I wasn't implying that you had any connection with OK2Boo and I wasn't intending to launch an attack on you, I'm sorry if that's how it seemed. Having said that, I don't agree with your argument.

    If you look at my position again, I'm not saying that booing is new, it's not, but the introduction of Celtic/Rangers rivalry at Irish Internati0onals is a relatively new phenomenon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    its sectarian bullshít to a boo a rangers player. also, its utterly ridiculous to boo a player at an international game because of what club he plays for.
    The vast majority of Booers probably don't even go to mass, the rest aren't old enough to know the meaning of sectarian. There's nothing sectarian about the booing. Religion is long gone from the vast majority of the rivalry between the Old Firm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy
    I just want to make this clear, the booing of Rangers players was done by the vast majority of the crowd at Lansdowne before it got media attention. A few Celtic fans started the booing and the whole crowd caught on not knowing why. If you hear a few thousand people booing, you do so yourself.

    If people think it was a bunch of secterian's this will prove you wrong. Before we played Australia all the papers mentioned Kevin Muscat potentially being a victim of the views. Fran Rooney, Brian Kerr and all the papers came out and asked people to quit the booing. What happened? There was no booing Muscat against Australia. That just proves people were taking it too serious and if they were secterian they wouldn't stop booing just because they were asked.

    Whether you agree with the booing or not, it was nowhere near as serious as people make/made out.
    Neither Muskat or Craig Morroe played in the Australia game but I bet you if they had they would have been booed by these morons.

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    That should have been Craig Moore obviously
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy
    what a ridiculous statement, on the one hand you say its ok to boo a ref and on the other not a player. What if the ref is black is it ok to boo him then for fear of being called racist? Listen player's have been booed for tens of years its part of football culture , keep yopur PC nonsense to your self
    How in God's name is that a ridiculous statement (and where did racism come into this)? Firstly, I don't say it's ok to boo a ref on one hand and it's not ok to boo a player on the other. I didn't say that at all so read my posts next time before you decide to go mouthing off.

    Secondly, there is quite a difference between booing when you're annoyed at (i) a terrible refereeing decision (ii) a cheating player (iii) a player who has generally acted the maggot, slagging off your club, supporters etc and then booing a player because he happens to play for Rangers. You boo a player because he plays for Rangers, thus feeding into the most pathetic, ignorant and braindead sectarian dispute left on these islands, and say it's part of football culture? Maybe that's your culture mate, it's not mine and you can keep it. And you also accuse me of being blindly PC on the matter? You haven't responded to the comparison between bullsh*t 'fans' like those who boo players because they play for Rangers and those in Windsor Park who boo players because they play for Celtic, is that what you want to be like? You pick nice role models, if that's the case.

    Booing is indeed part of football as is the sliding tackle. Sometimes necessary, tough and well-timed, sometimes just dirty and carried out by a gorilla.

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    I find it hard to believe UEFA fined us over booing a player. They'd have to fine every team on the planet and if they're fining us over booing then god knows what the punishment should be for incidents like away to Georgia.

    And the idiots booing Rangers players are idiots but aren't sectarian. There is nothing based on relgion there, they're booing them because they can't tell the difference between Lansedown Road and Celtic Park, not because they have anything against the religion of the player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy
    The vast majority of Booers probably don't even go to mass, the rest aren't old enough to know the meaning of sectarian. There's nothing sectarian about the booing. Religion is long gone from the vast majority of the rivalry between the Old Firm.
    they're still the sort of knuckle-dragging morons who support celtic cos they think it makes them part of "the cause" aginst the "huns" and that IS based on religion. they're so stupid they probably don't realise what they're doing has a sectarian basis, but thats neither here nor there

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    Dotsy - I'm certain Muscat played against Ireland. As far as I remember he started.

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