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    Republic of Ireland V Poland - Sunday, 29th March 2015 - Euro 2016 Qualifier

    I'm using this thread to analyse the Poland team who we face next at home in a little over 4 months time. To get the chatting started, I've done some simple analysis on the them over their first 4 games.

    Their first XI has been fairly consistant with a handful of regular subs used. I've highlighted their club side, age, caps to date and games and goals this campaign.
    I haven't included a few lads who only made one appearance against Gibraltar.

    Barring injuries and anyone getting hit by a bus, this is what we should face in March.

    GK
    Szczesny - Arsenal (England) - A:24 - C:22 - 4 games.

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    Piszczek - Borussia Dortmund (Germany) - A:29 - C:39 - 3 games.

    Szukala - Steaua Bucharest (Romania) - A:30 - C:10 - 4 games, 1 goal.

    Gilik - Torino (Italy) - A:26 - C:28 - 4 games, 1 goal.

    Jedrzegczyk - Krasnodar (Russia) - A:27 - C:14 - 3 games.

    MF
    Grosicki - Rennes (France) - A:26 - C:27 - 4 games, 2 goals.

    Krychowiak - Sevilla (Spain) - A:24 - C:23 - 4 games, 1 goal.

    Maczynski - Guizhou Renhe (China) - A:27 - C:6 - 3 games, 1 goal.

    Mila - Slask Wroclaw (Poland) - A:32 - C:33 - 3 games, 2 goals.

    FD
    Milik - Ajax (Holland) - A:20 - C:13 - 4 games, 3 goals.

    Lewandowski - Bayern Munich (Germany) - A:26 - C:65 - 4 games, 4 goals.

    Subs:

    DF
    Olkowski - Cologne (Germany) - A:24 - C:7 - 1 game.

    Wawrzyniak - Amkar Perm (Russia) - A:31 - C:43 - 2 games.

    MF
    Rybus - Terak Grozny (Russia) - A:25 - C:31 - 3 games.

    Sobota - Club Brugge (Belgium) - A:27 - C:17 - 3 games.

    Jodlowiec - Legia Warsaw (Poland) - A:29 - C:26 - 2 games.

    The defender Gilik picked up a second yellow away to Georgia and so is suspended against us. It's similar to us losing O' Shea, considering his importance to them.
    They may call up Wawrzyniak as his replacement, who played against Gibraltar and Germany.

    The only players I recognise are Szczesny in goal, Piszczek at the back and Lewandowski up front. All 3 lads are class and play at top clubs. The others, I have no idea about.
    So between now and March I'll try to post regular updates on their form, injuries and the like, so we can get the know who we are facing.
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    If we were to win, we could still sneak automatic promotion.
    A draw, the most likely result IMO, struggle to still scrape third lies on, possibly.
    Defeat, equals virtually certain non-qualification, with 6+months to go...
    Depressing if so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    If we were to win, we could still sneak automatic promotion.
    A draw, the most likely result IMO, struggle to still scrape third lies on, possibly.
    Defeat, equals virtually certain non-qualification, with 6+months to go...
    Depressing if so.
    The blokes up top are who we are facing. have had a good run of it, but not the greatest bunch on paper. if we can get everyone fit and playing regularly at their clubs, then anything is possible. can't see whats stopping us targeting 3 points with confidence.
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    Would like us to line out something like :

    ..............Westwood

    Coleman O'Shea Keogh Wilson

    .....McCarthy..... Whelan

    McGeady ................Brady

    ..............Hoolahan

    ......... ...........Keane or Long
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    Agreed, except we won't.
    Injuries and the demands of the PL will see to that.

    And Delaney or Duffy at the back, Keogh/Ward are both liabilities. Plus MO'N has his favourites, so no chance of anything close to that/these teams.?

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    If there was any message from O'Neill's tenure at Celtic it was that his sides were usually poor away from home but almost always victorious at home. Let's hope this trend continues. My recollection is that many of Celtic's famous victories at home were won by set pieces, often delivered by Thompson.

    If Poland are so good how come Scotland drew 2-2 there? Of course we can beat them. All square at the half way point with 3 home games left would be a position as any of us would have taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    If there was any message from O'Neill's tenure at Celtic it was that his sides were usually poor away from home but almost always victorious at home.
    That's more of a Celtic trait in general I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    If there was any message from O'Neill's tenure at Celtic it was that his sides were usually poor away from home but almost always victorious at home. Let's hope this trend continues. My recollection is that many of Celtic's famous victories at home were won by set pieces, often delivered by Thompson
    think that's why brady needs to be accommodated for his set pieces. much of a muchness between him and mclean generally but bradys set pieces are much better

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    think that's why brady needs to be accommodated for his set pieces. much of a muchness between him and mclean generally but bradys set pieces are much better
    McLean brings more physicality and energy and Brady as you say is better at set pieces. Our deliveries (McGeady) in particular were poor until Brady came on. Six of one, half dozen of the other.
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    It's only just started and this thread has already been side-tracked by all sorts of other chat...!

    Back on track... Poland are at home to Switzerland on Tuesday night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    If there was any message from O'Neill's tenure at Celtic it was that his sides were usually poor away from home but almost always victorious at home. Let's hope this trend continues. My recollection is that many of Celtic's famous victories at home were won by set pieces, often delivered by Thompson.

    If Poland are so good how come Scotland drew 2-2 there? Of course we can beat them. All square at the half way point with 3 home games left would be a position as any of us would have taken.
    Except that was a decade ago, so wouldn't extrapolate anything from that sadly.
    Football has moved on, doubtful MO'N has improved by much tbh?

    Polska aren't unbeatable but given our woeful record of beating anyone of note in this same last decade or so, as chronicled here
    http://foot.ie/threads/147164-Eligib...=1#post1792610
    reckon our chances are 10-15% at best...

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    Hearing that McCarthy is a doubt for this one.

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    id go

    Forde
    Coleman. Wilson
    O'Shea. keogh.

    McCarthy Gibson

    McGeady. Hoolahan. Brady

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    We need to keep it much more that we have done. Lewandowski will punish us if we give up the chances we gave against Scotland, he will take the half chances. Brady's set pieces were dangersous but on top of that his delivery in open play is much better than McCleans. If he can come close to matching his work rate he's a far better option. The 3 in the middle allows us more of a chance to get both wingers on the ball higher up the pitch, maybe get more/better crosses for the likes of long or even keane. Keane for me can only play if we are going to have more possession if not he's lost out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bishbash View Post
    id go

    Forde
    Coleman. Wilson
    O'Shea. keogh.

    McCarthy Gibson

    McGeady. Hoolahan. Brady

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    We need to keep it much more that we have done. Lewandowski will punish us if we give up the chances we gave against Scotland, he will take the half chances. Brady's set pieces were dangersous but on top of that his delivery in open play is much better than McCleans. If he can come close to matching his work rate he's a far better option. The 3 in the middle allows us more of a chance to get both wingers on the ball higher up the pitch, maybe get more/better crosses for the likes of long or even keane. Keane for me can only play if we are going to have more possession if not he's lost out there.
    I actually quite like this team. I doubt MON will go with this as somehow he'll justify a reason to find room in there for Whelan and Quinn...
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    No it's going to be the tried & tested unfortunately. I'd actually prefer Quinn at this stage as he's probably got a better range of passing than Whelan & he puts his foot in. MON will surely try something in the friendly games, be some bit inventive or creative that may stand to us going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    McLean brings more physicality and energy and Brady as you say is better at set pieces. Our deliveries (McGeady) in particular were poor until Brady came on. Six of one, half dozen of the other.
    ian harte wasn't the best defender in the world but was great at set piece delivery and therefore got selected. for a team like us set pieces are critical and therefore I feel it justifies bradys selection

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    ian harte wasn't the best defender in the world but was great at set piece delivery and therefore got selected. for a team like us set pieces are critical and therefore I feel it justifies bradys selection
    Hmmmm, Harte. I used to have a go at Mick for selecting him. I think McLean also offers more in defence than Brady but I agree there isn't much between the two.

    An important factor in the Polish game will be the ticket office (and for the Scots game). Those at the friendly in Lansdowne a year or so ago will recall that well over half of the crowd was Polish. This has got to be avoided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    Hmmmm, Harte. I used to have a go at Mick for selecting him. I think McLean also offers more in defence than Brady but I agree there isn't much between the two.

    An important factor in the Polish game will be the ticket office (and for the Scots game). Those at the friendly in Lansdowne a year or so ago will recall that well over half of the crowd was Polish. This has got to be avoided.
    We should give them just 5% so. That's all the rage.
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