Reid out basically scuppers Forest's promotion chances. A very unfortunate player.
With Whelan out, I think MON will go with Hendrick, Gibson, McCarthy.
Whelan and Hoolahan are out until December. To exacerbate things, Reid is out until 2015. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29583679
Elsewhere Meyler, Quinn and Gibson aren't playing first team football; Meyler isn't even getting in squads.
That leaves Hendrick & McCarthy playing regular first team football and they would probably be the best two options as it stands.
I suppose Hoolahan & Reid wouldn't have been likely to start anyways; if anything Quinn would get the nod instead.
In fairness to Whelan, he is one of the first names on the teamsheet for Stoke fans and he has always recovered quickly after getting dropped at club level but you can only call it how you see it and Whelan's performances for Ireland have been consistently abject.
Edit: Coleman & McCarthy rested for the Europa League game tonight. Gibson on the bench again. Anyone beginning to feel that Martinez doesn't really value him?
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Reid out basically scuppers Forest's promotion chances. A very unfortunate player.
With Whelan out, I think MON will go with Hendrick, Gibson, McCarthy.
He has fielded a pretty strong team so it looks lime he is taking this game very seriously. Hardly a surprise that Gibson isn't in the team and certainly not an indictment of Gibson - not yet anyway. If Martinez has all his midfielders match fit Gibson is always going to have his work cut out getting a start. I think he has a big battle on his hands to elevate his status at that club. But we all have to earn our keep and prove our worth to our bosses so it's up to him.
Everton have had next to no possession in the Lille half, but after bringing on Lukaku they stepped it up and the ball fell to McGeady in the box, but he didn't have time to pick his spot and the keeper made a great save.
Is Wes definitely out then? Whether or not he would have been set to start, that's a blow, even if it's simply losing him as an option.
Wes isn't officially out but he's out.
Brown looked average workmanlike tonight for Celtic, bland vanilla.
I think Keane might be right about the game in Glasgow being brutal. If it is, I still think our lads can out-brutal them.
That's what I wrote on this thread (if it's relevant!) I try to argue the point I'm trying to make.
I've seen reference to Brown's champion's league experience. Yeah it's a factor. He has experience in Europe's premier competition far greater than any of our players. You could argue that he's experience of having his arse handed to him 3/4 matches a season on the biggest stage of all consistently, aside from the big 2 results Celtic get when they play at home against beatable sides (that's slightly in jest for the Celtic fan-bhoys amongst you).
What am I trying to say? I feel McCarthy, based on the right system for us, can replicate his incredibly outstanding club form, and he for me is comfortably the best midfielder of the combined teams. I think someone else said it, and if so I'd agree, that James McArthur (James' buddy) is a super and extremely underrated player and I'd actually have him next on the list. I've a slight hard-on for Gibson, despite his sullen ways. He has great awareness, super range of passing and is tough in his own right.
Brown is a throw back, and excels in the proper old-style midfield role. Is Scott Brown garbage? No! Listen Scott Brown is a decent player. I don't deny that. But I don't think he'll be a game changer, and I don't think he'll dominate midfield. Glenn Whelan does an important job for us, which probably does limit us, but that's a choice the management have made consistently! So I stand by what I say, I wouldn't have Scott Brown in the middle for us, and I wouldn't have him in the team ahead of Whelan, Mac or Gibbo.
And I stand by the weak link comment. If we play 3 to their 2, and God forbid we get on top or attempt to keep possession, then I feel Brown could get narky, petulant, call it what you want. This game will call for cool heads - I'm not necessarily sure that equates to Scott Brown.
I'll admit, I haven't seen a lot of Celtic in the 2010's, but I just can't believe Brown has developed too much more than he was in the noughties. I won't be happy to be proven wrong, as it'll probably result in hurting us, but I'll put my hand up and say "kudos Junior"
Absolutely, and it's a problem already. 3 weeks to go, it's only going to get worse.
You said it!
Rat's out.
We'll see.
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
For now, I'm glad Whelan is out, not that I'd wish injury on him. It could backfire if the injury list gets bigger but we have better players than him, so I'm glad they're going to have to be used. It seems a recurring view amongst 'footiers' that Whelan seems pretty basic, but he can't be that bad if all these managers keep playing him. To hell with that I think, he's very obviously an average to poor footballer, regardless of his other qualities, of which I'm sure there are many. We performed better without him in Stockholm (with Paul Green) and the Italian friendly was our best midfield performance since.
Very surprised Gibson didn't start last night, or at least come on. Besic picked up an early booking as well so was on thin ice for most of the game. With injury time practically up, Martinez brought on McCarthy to use up a couple of seconds.
I hope CD is right that MON goes with McCarthy, Gibson and Hendrick, but I can't see him not starting Quinn in this one. With Hoolahan and Reid out, it might be no harm to have Hendrick in reserve anyway, as an attack minded game changer, if that's what's required.
Last edited by DeLorean; 24/10/2014 at 10:22 AM.
Agreed. I was up at the game and it was a stinking performance by all the Celtic team. Brown needed to take the game by the scruff of the neck and step up the tempo and get his teammates to wake up and lift their performance levels. He didn't. Bad news for Celtic but a performance like that would be great when he turns out for Scotland next month.
And whilst we are on it - Mulgrew was woeful. Supposed to be playing in the middle of the park but more often than not was standing on the toes of his two centre backs -trying to spray passes around like he was Baresi and more often than not conceding possession. Again, would be happy enough if he put in a performance like that for the Navy Blue shirts come 14th November.
I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?
"No, I drink to help me mind my own business....can I get you one? (c) Ronnie Drew
Not sure what happened to Colbert.
Chaps barring any of the usual injuries, suspensions, defections, joining ISIS, Ebola breakout, etc... what do you think will be Alba's starting lineup?
No Somos muchos pero estamos locos.
Is that the best they can do? Junior has already written off Brown.
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