Shaun is jonny dunleaveys agent and was involved with skyler Andrew it's vested interest.Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
You went power mad, tets. Do you not remember?
Irish Examiner reporting tomorrow (or, today, I guess) that Gibson is now an injury doubt after picking up a training injury. Not food news considering Whelan and Hoolahan are already doubtful and out. Really need a decent midfield pair for this one.
You were laughing maniacally and posting links to YBIG all over the place. I was afraid to say anything in case you had me killed.
Hopefully it's only minor as Gibson needs game-time as much for his Everton future as we need him for this game. With Hoolahan out, we'll need somebody with the confidence to play intelligent forward passes.
You say you want the management to take a shot and give players chances straight after you criticise the current management for taking a shot with Linehan and the former management for taking a shot with Clifford? Make your mind up.
Players with ten or less caps or aged 26 or under in the squad:
Rob Elliot
Darren Randolph
Ciaran Clark
Damien Delaney
Richard Keogh
Alex Pearce
Shane Duffy
Séamus Coleman
Brian Lenihan
Stephen Quinn
James McClean
James McCarthy
David Meyler
Robbie Brady
Jeff Hendrick
Anthony Pilkington
Connor Sammon
Anthony Stokes
Is it really as bad as you're making out?
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 29/10/2014 at 11:45 PM.
Good collation DI, but three of the second list should not play again IMO.
Ah, I just tidied them up into a solitary list, but here were the two separate lists I'd originally made again.
Players aged 26 or under in the squad:
Ciaran Clark
Alex Pearce
Shane Duffy
Séamus Coleman
Brian Lenihan
James McClean
James McCarthy
David Meyler
Robbie Brady
Jeff Hendrick
Anthony Pilkington
Anthony Stokes
Players with ten or less caps in the squad:
Rob Elliot
Darren Randolph
Ciaran Clark
Damien Delaney
Richard Keogh
Alex Pearce
Shane Duffy
Brian Lenihan
Stephen Quinn
Robbie Brady
Jeff Hendrick
Anthony Pilkington
Connor Sammon
Anthony Stokes
Good work Danny, thanks. That said, I have to say I do share TOWK's frustration at some of the selections, although as I repeatedly point out, it's only for the marginal places.
It's not so much the lack of imagination in itself, it's that it follows straight off the back of a manager who often didn't seem aware of the broader options and who made some erratic selections, but more importantly, O'Neill seems to be peddling that tired old line used by Trap "there's nothing coming through, I just don't see it. We do t have the quality". There are talented players coming through but their pathway is clogged up by the huge influx of players from all over the world in England, many of who are mediocre. International recognition and exposure could be a useful leg up.
Anyway, even with Gibson, Whelan and Hoolahan injured or a doubt there is still McCarthy, Meyler, Hendrick and Quinn as CM options, and one or two who could fill the Hoolahan role, most notably Brady. If Gibson does withdraw I can see Green being called up and that doesn't scare me at all. If he can do a job in Sweden he can do a job in Glasgow.
Last edited by Stuttgart88; 30/10/2014 at 8:32 AM.
Yeap, it's all set up now to be a bore-draw...
Martinez quoted on The Score saying Gibson is fine.
Aye, but another game before then, pray he doesn't play this weekend, or Coleman, or McCarthy, or McGeady...
Out of interest, who are the three? I assume Sammon is one of them. Is Stokes another and maybe one of the keepers?
Stokes and Keogh, so not bad guesswork.
The keepers are a bit of an unknown quantity. At least one of them should have played v.the theme park...
Ah Danny I know you are frustrated about me being proven right about Jack Grealish againbut you have got to see the crux of my point, no?
I criticised the calling up of Clifford and I criticised the call up of Lenihan. I'm remaining consistent, despite my contrasting opinions on Trapattoni & O'Neill. Lenihan will remain uncapped. He is a token call up. There are at least half-a-dozen players playing in the PL, Championship and maybe even L1 who could all come in and do a job right now.
Clark is 25, Pearce is almost 26, Coleman is 26, McClean is 25, Meyler is 25, Pilkington is 26 and Stokes is 26 so I think you are being pretty fussy there. Every other player has been given his first cap by Trapattoni. Calling up Lenihan instead of Doherty (and one or two others) is very strange and, allied with the persistence in calling Stephen Kelly up, points to waiting for Cyrus Christie to get his passport and a complete lack of faith or awareness in Irish born RB's playing in England.
Players under ten caps - most of them are one or two caps under, all have been given their debut's under another manager and some (Delaney) have been around treading water for over 6 years.
But again if you want to be fussy and avoid the crux of the issue, be my guest.
Hehe, how do you work that one out then? Maybe O'Neill just didn't fancy calling up a player who's played no more than 100 minutes of Premier League football as a substitute?Ah Danny I know you are frustrated about me being proven right about Jack Grealish again
I do and I'm all for imagination, but Stutts showed much greater nuance above in making that point. You don't have to wildly exaggerate claims and figures in order to present a valid argument on this matter.but you have got to see the crux of my point, no?
To whom is it a token gesture exactly?Lenihan will remain uncapped. He is a token call up.
Hey, look; you set those parameters. You make the point much better when you refine your analysis, as you've done immediately above.Clark is 25, Pearce is almost 26, Coleman is 26, McClean is 25, Meyler is 25, Pilkington is 26 and Stokes is 26 so I think you are being pretty fussy there. Every other player has been given his first cap by Trapattoni. Calling up Lenihan instead of Doherty (and one or two others) is very strange and, allied with the persistence in calling Stephen Kelly up, points to waiting for Cyrus Christie to get his passport and a complete lack of faith or awareness in Irish born RB's playing in England.
Players under ten caps - most of them are one or two caps under, all have been given their debut's under another manager and some (Delaney) have been around treading water for over 6 years.
As I said, I share TOWK's concerns here but I really do find it hard to believe he just isn't aware of Matt Doherty. That'd be a dereliction of duty. Not rating him is another matter, but that opens the question of on what grounds can he rate Lenihan higher.
As things stand Meyler seems to be Coleman's back up. Others in the back four can play across the back four too. But then that leaves open the issue of Kelly who - and I'm taking my info from TOWK here - isn't even fit. He certainly isn't playing anyway. Bizarre.
All managers have their irrational favourites. Even though they exceeded expectations v.Germany, why do you think Ward & Whelan have lasted so long?
Or the various players omitted over the years...
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