QuoteAt least we got a result against the Spanish team at home when we faced themOriginally Posted by eirebhoy
to be fair to the poster from NZ, perhaps he thought that foran is considered a potential int'l by some because the post was made here in the int'l forum?
At least we got a result against the Spanish team at home when we faced them
That's a fair point but every post, with the exception of the first one which simply pointed out that he had scored recently, had trashed him completely which makes his recommendation for us to 'get real' quite unusual.
I started this thread in in international section as I believe Richie was once on the fringes of the national side. He scored again today v Dunferline and got another one during the week. That must be five or six in the last month.
err... umm... dontcha just hate it when subsequent results come up and bite yer arse like that?At least we got a result against the Spanish team at home when we faced them
Barca who?
PP
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If red card Richie ever got into the Ireland squad ahead of Jason Byrne, to name one of many who should be ahead of him, it'd be an absolute joke. He should never be considered for Ireland. Besides, Don Givens 'retired' him, so I don't think he'll be considered, to be honest I don't think he was ever on the fringes of the national side.
And PP, touché....For now anyway, until we hammer Real in next years third round qualifyer
Gofornothing? Trundle, for one, is going for a song at the moment - bound for a higher division.
Anyway, the value of an Irish cap has been irrevocably demeaned by our history of making internationals out of the likes of Mick Milligan, Liam Daish, Liam O'Brien, Eddie McGoldrick, Alan Kernaghan, Don Goodman, Curtis Fleming, Alan Moore and my good self, to name but a few. The lost souls of Lansdowne, where are they now...
By the by, did anyone else hear that Keith O'Neill is making a come back?!!! Won 7-0 last week, playing on the same team as the great Chris Morris! Believe!
http://www.elevenaside.com/acrossthe...p?newsid=14758
Terry, you sound like you should be fuuny, but you're not. Liam Daish was supposed to be the answer to our centre-back problems for a while but he picked up a serious injury that finished his career. Eddie McGoldrick and Alan Kernaghan helped us to the World Cup finals in 94. They both played in our final game against the North. Curtis Fleming was a Premiership footballer who always gave 110% for Ireland. What demeens playing for Ireland is those players who consider themselves too good to turn up for certain games. So stop talking sh!te Terry.
"Love many, trust few, always paddle your own canoe." Dillo
i'm amazed keith o'neills still alive and kicking, the amount of injuries hes had, was convinced he'd fall in a hole and off himself or some such.
as for richie, as mentioned above, he was kicked out of the u21s by don given back in the day (broke curfew, went missing for the night, came back and told don he had 'woman troubles', if remember the story correctly). his times been and gone far as any outside shot at a senior caps concerned i'd guess.
Chillax the fcukin khaks there, JamaicanPM - and how on earth are you able to tell that I sound like I should be 'fuuny' (sic) but in fact am not? If I'm not funny then why the hell do you think I sound like I should be? There was nothing in there of a whackass 'how's about this for a larf' schlock nature. I merely try and write a bit on the vibrant side of life, try to make things sound interesting. I'm not trying to be a fcuking comedian, I'm just doing what people do on discussion boards - discussing things like footie, in a non-serious environment.
And I do not need you to point out what Eddie McG, Alan Kernaghan or Curtis Fleming did for Ireland. Obviously I know exactly what these lads have done in a green shirt (Kernaghan v Salinas, Lansdowne '93; Milligan's one cap wonder v Russia '94; Liam Daish was embarrassing against Wales when we played them out at RDS I think it was - outpaced by Mark Pembridge of all people. Curtis was unspectacular at best). So yes, it was tongue in cheek when I referred to these altogether unspectacular and average players as 'demeaning' the value of the Irish cap - that obviously is much too harsh and only meant in jest - I happen to think it is quite funny that we can give caps to such below-average players (although usually not many). I for one find it a good laugh to reflect on all these players who have fallen by the wayside (Alan Mahon, Gareth Whalley, Dominic Foley etc) and think back nostaligcally about their exploits during their brief time in an Irish jersey.
So chill out, for fcuk's sake. I'm not trying to play the comedian, I'm just having a laugh.
Don Goodman never played for Ireland. There was a guy who played against Wales, Big Pauls last cap, from Wimbledon Jon Goodwan or Goodwin.
While some of the players you mentioned above never became established internationals, they were worth trying out. Kernaghan had a great game against Demark in Copenhagen in WC 1994 qualifier. The likes of Moore, Mahon, McGoldrick and Fleming were all worthy of a chance to wear the green shirt.
Capping guys in their late twenties or early thirties like Bernie Slaven is a joke.
Always look on the bright side of life
It was Jon Goodman, then of Wimbledon. Twelve whole minutes in an Ireland shirt.
Speaking of Bernie Slaven (who is still revered on Teesside and was tipped a couple of years back to become Middlesbrough's first directly-elected mayor) and other late caps, I see that one-cap Owen Coyle is still banging the goals in at the tender age of 38; this time for Airdrie United in the Scottish First Division. I think he was worth more myself than the eight minutes against Holland that he actually got. Ah well. Isn't hindsight wonderful?
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Out of interest how old was Kavanagh when we first capped him? His recent performances more than disprove your statement IMO.
I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?
"No, I drink to help me mind my own business....can I get you one? (c) Ronnie Drew
I think he was only 24/25 when he got his first cap back in 1998/99ish.
Aye what a silly thing to say. If you're not good enough at 22 you will never be good enough? Players improve over time and if someone like Kavanagh was 19 or 20 (with his current ability) he'd be in the team without hesitation IMHO.
Aye, Jon Goodman - that's the one. Thanks Packie.It was Jon Goodman, then of Wimbledon. Twelve whole minutes in an Ireland shirt.
Speaking of Bernie Slaven (who is still revered on Teesside and was tipped a couple of years back to become Middlesbrough's first directly-elected mayor) and other late caps, I see that one-cap Owen Coyle is still banging the goals in at the tender age of 38; this time for Airdrie United in the Scottish First Division. I think he was worth more myself than the eight minutes against Holland that he actually got. Ah well. Isn't hindsight wonderful?
I agree about Owen Coyle too; at the time he deserved a longer crack of the whip than he got. 38 years young and still banging in the goals - reminds me of Big Cas's lengthy swansong abroad with Marseille when he took the French league by storm! Was he included in the '94 World Cup squad by any chance (I remember the RTE World Cup guide came out and he was listed among the squad of players - little inset and profile of him. That said, Mick Milligan and Liam Daish were also included, so maybe it was before the official squad was announced... don't tell me they were in it too?!!!)
And wasn't Stephen Geoghegan on the bench the day Coyle got his cap too?
Referring to Coyle, not Cascarino here. Just to clarify...
Was at the Hibs v Motherwell game too, Foran was absolute rubbish. Although he was playing on right side of midfield, so was being marked by Steve Glass, not Murdoch.
Bang on, Terry, sometimes the lack of a sense of humour around this place is frightening.
That bloke who got capped against Finland in the 3-0 win recently, Jim Godowin I think was his name would have to come high on the list. What's he upto now? And of course, the magical 45 minutes masterclass of defending that was Butlers debut and only cap would put him in contention.
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