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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    The LoI was well in decline before Delaney took over, due mostly to the Big Match and Match of the Day, but it certainly seems to be in a better state than our brethren across the border. Live LoI games on TV were never shown (are they ever shown up North?) - in fact it took a long time before RTE would even show the Cup Final live.
    Sky Sports broadcast Irish League games live.

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    'Daniel McDonnell: John Delaney response offers an insight into FAI approach to a national team crisis': http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-35608858.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan McDonnell
    Delaney failed to explain why the conditions that existed until this week's talks [between the FAI and PFAI/women's team] had become the status quo. Instead, he defended the FAI's record by outlining how they had invested in the women's game. Which is laudable, although there is a point where it's hardly impolite to suggest that it is actually the association's job to do so.

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    But the FAI's response to criticism of this flashpoint would suggest that a post office with their mindset would look for congratulations upon the successful delivery of Christmas cards in the second week of January.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    'Daniel McDonnell: John Delaney response offers an insight into FAI approach to a national team crisis': http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-35608858.html
    Dan's article is a damning indictment of Delaney's handling of the women's concern.
    The women assumed the high moral ground in the eyes of the public as soon as the issues became known. It's disturbing to some degree that Delaney didn't read the situation better, in the light of his petty persistence in digging his hole deeper.

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    Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    He said 'Bigly' :-)

    He also clocked in and commented on an article about himself*. Not cool John (I assume he sticks a head in here the odd time too).

    *"I think John Delaney is doing a fantastic job and should get a pay rise, if he was in the private section there'd be a queue down the street for his services!!!"
    " I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"

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    John Fallon in the Indo adds some detail in the only print deviation from the FAI spin that I have come across and it's a mild deviation at that.
    Bonus costs eat into FAI's €11m Euros haul
    "The increase in salary costs by €2.7m to €12.4m was attributed to "exceptional costs associated with qualifying for Euro 2016".

    "exceptional costs"??
    The management were already paid top dollar, more than enough to get the team through the qualification process to this extended format tournament. We could finish 3rd in both the qual group and in the group at the Finals and still move on to the next stage. That's not the stuff of bonus, that's a minimum level achieved in order to feel pleased about not going backwards.
    The players were already well enumerated.
    The details of where exactly this money went will not revealed in the annual report.
    The Iceland FA accounted costs for everything Euro Finals related was €3.7m and they did not short change the preparations

    The FAI administer the LOI with a gleeful punitive condescension (or should that be Putinesque).
    There can be little doubt that the abject €5k grant disbursed post Euros to the 20 clubs was an insult.
    And now the FAI state that they have had a Euro finals surplus of €4.5m for 9 months, with no plan in place.

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    'FAI in line to receive €7.75m if Ireland reach World Cup': https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soc...-cup-1.3271364

    Quote Originally Posted by Emmet Malone
    The FAI stands to gain around €7.75 million in guaranteed prize money if Martin O’Neill and his players can beat Denmark over the two legs of their World Cup play-off after Fifa increased the total amount up for grabs by 12 per cent at a meeting on Friday morning in Kolkata, India.

    The total prize fund for the competition in Russia next summer will be $400 million (€344 million), up from $358 million three years ago. If, as expected, the distribution of the money is broadly in line with the tournament in Brazil then the 16 teams eliminated in the first round will receive around $9 million (€7.75 million) each with qualification to the first knockout round worth an additional €850,000.

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    Hopefully some of it will trickle down to the LOI.

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    Interesting that the Euros was worth a good bit more? €11m v €8.6m for getting knocked out at the same stage (last 16) in the World Cup.

    Is there another source of income - TV deals or something?

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    Failure to qualify will cost the FAI a potential €9 million apparently. Bad news all round. http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/s...ia-462926.html
    Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.

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    Delaney has maintained a very low profile since Tuesday as O'Neill and the players have taken the hit.

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    That's unfair Danny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Delaney has maintained a very low profile since Tuesday as O'Neill and the players have taken the hit.
    Unless he's firing the manager or publicly backing him, I don't really see why Delaney should be in the public eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    Unless he's firing the manager or publicly backing him, I don't really see why Delaney should be in the public eye.
    If he was consistently peripheral, grand, but had we robbed it 1-0 would he be so scarce ? Or has he in the past been reluctant to bask in any scrap of reflective glory ? Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    That's unfair Danny.
    As CTP highlights, we all know well Delaney would be basking in the success by association had we qualified. He'd be publicly thanking Martin and there'd be videos produced by FAI TV of him appearing in the changing room to celebrate with the players. There'd be sing-songs, drinks bought for fans and he might even have taken to the pitch to cheer-lead the crowd.

    I guess my post was primarily an articulation of frustration at the man's eternal (and self-enforced) lack of accountability. If there was a sense that Delaney would ever have to answer serious questions in respect of his management of Irish football - be that in a few days, a few weeks, a few months or whenever - I wouldn't be overly bothered by his present ghosting.

    Dan McDonnell makes some excellent points here, but no-one's ever going to get an opportunity to put them to Delaney. That's why Delaney should be in the public/media spotlight and shouldn't be let hide away from the consequences of his decisions and governance.

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    This is a decent summary of the numerous issues facing Irish football at present.

    'A Blunt but Much Needed Assessment of Irish Football in Its Current State': http://www.punditarena.com/football/...current-state/

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    I think its a scandal that Kerr is not involved, in some capacity.

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    A big concern with MON is the style of play. We criticise the bandwagon brigade but as a football lover,at times I have pulled my hair out at the equally horrendous and stupid style of play we have. His generally good results have papered over the cracks. I do think that this type of football allied to the last few years of Trap's reign is doing long term damage to our esteem as footballers. I heard ****e from pundits that it's not in our dna to play the continental way but we produced outstanding footballers down the years and under mick we played lovely football on a regular basis.

    The counter argument would be that we have a very average group of players (i still believe we can play better) and MON is a streetwise manager who could get us to euro 2020 where we would host group games and a last 16.It is the closest we will come to being a full host. That is a potential windfall for the game here which could be pumped into real long term development. Another argument would be who could realistically get better results? Do we have the young players coming through right now? My understanding is that we have some of our best talents in a long time but they are mostly 15-16. There is no guarantee they will reach their expectation. I watch a lot of underage football and i was convinced Conor Clifford would be a top premiership player.

    Do we then write off wc2022 with a view to building an exciting squad for the future? I personally would be happy with this if in 5 years we had an exciting youthful team like what developed under Mick,even if they might not be as talented.

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    The FAI are in a significant amount of debt and their business model of choice presumably means they don't feel they're in a financial position to be writing off or sacrificing entire campaigns to focus on long-term co-ordination and player development rather than prioritising the potential cash cow of immediate qualification, so it seems they feel compelled by their financial situation to take what they consider the safe or most immediately lucrative option always, which appears to entail throwing all their eggs in one short-term basket and banking on qualification from campaign to campaign.

    It appears desperate and short-sighted to me. Rather than the desperately hopeful and disjointed campaign-to-campaign approach, if they actually developed a long-term and more sustainable strategy to serve us into the future, it'd be more likely to reap greater rewards overall once the results started to take effect; it's just that it would take a bit more thought, planning, work and time, but we should think of it as delayed gratification.

    On Brian Kerr, it's a travesty that his knowledge and intellect aren't being harnessed.

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    On paper Brian Kerr seems the perfect person for the role Ruud Dokter is in
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