You'd have a hard time arguing that case given we weren't qualifying for the World Cup at the time of the goal.Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo
Received a one off payment in such good faith that we were asked to keep it confidential, and used it for football purposes, but you have no evidence of that because a 5m gift from FIFA doesn't warrant even a note on the associations accounts.
It is claimed that in the 2011 accounts a sum of Eur1m and Eur4m was discreetly entered into the accounts as income or/and turnover.
This is not a court of law I do not have to produce evidence, I adjudge it to be a very likely scenario based on available information
And I can prove that my ability to judge these things is sound
Delaney is an accountant so I would hazard a reasonable guess that he would remember these things and not even Delaney would reveal such a godsend Eur5m figure, if it was not already accounted for. In some ways he acts the buffoon, is a vainglorious spoofer but in other areas he is very competent and has a good grasp of his brief
Statement released by the FAI, includes documentation on the receipt of, and filing of, the money from FIFA: www.fai.ie/domestic/news/fai-statement-050615
Back in my box so.
Thanks Tets.
This stuff is bloody brilliant. Sounds like FIFA might have been experienced in drafting this kind of thing going on the documentation!
So it started off at €5.4m....when you add in the goal project cash.
If the supposed merits of the FAI’s respective legal cases were explained by the association in greater detail along with how and why exactly the seemingly arbitrary sum of €5 million (plus the additional grant) was deemed by FIFA to be an appropriate settlement, I would be much more satisfied with the overall situation. At the minute, €5 million just seems too good to be true. Why would any organisation, never mind a global and legally-savvy one like FIFA, be throwing around that sort of money for questionable return? The whole thing just doesn't stack up for me. Emmet Malone's general analysis of the situation in the Irish Times has been pretty good and he has shed light upon some serious inconsistencies in the FAI statement and then Delaney's words from Friday night.
I wrote a more detailed piece on the whole matter the other day here myself and have been adding updates (and questions/concerns) towards the bottom since the FAI's most recent statement: https://danieldcollins.wordpress.com...to-fai-remain/
The latest disclosure explains the form of the payment and indeed indicates its recording, but I still think there are outstanding questions that could do with answering.
This article is possibly a bit of a beat up on the Indo's part, but hopefully the government will start to pressure Delaney to resign and end his embarrassing reign over the FAI. I would love to see someone like Kevin Moran take over as CEO as he has both experience of playing and business acumen as well. Won't happen , but it's nice to dream.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-31283288.html
FIFA ban government interference in national associations, and have suspended national associations in the past for doing so, so I can't see any sort of pressure coming from the government to remove Delaney
Isn't the pressure coming already with Kenny criticising him openly?
FIFA is in no position at the moment to ban or suspend anyone.
Not strictly true. Governments have a valid stake in national FAs especially if they receive public funding. The UK government has twice or three times, at least, interfered with the FA and football. I think what FIFA forbids is direct involvement in the running of an FA.
Money talks, so if funding is cut or suspended, change will happen despite what FIFA might claim. Government interference, good or bad, happens the whole time and with an election on the way, what a way to gain a few votes. YBIG members would love it!
Delaney will be livid from the lack of distractive talking points from that game.
Sadlier having a right go at Delaney, talking about 'rank hypocrisy'.
so where was sadlier a year ago when this story first broke?
it hardly caused a murmur 12 months ago when it first broke but its another bandwagon to jump on now given what happened in FIFA the last two weeks
Regardless of this 'payment' from FIFA, Delaney has to go.
His whole tenure has been a disaster. The national team have gone backwards. The standards of the LoI have dropped and only for the clubs and volunteers the league would be a hell of let worse off. I haven't seen any of these so-called improvements at schoolboy level or grass roots. Kids are still playing on terrible pitches with poor standard of coaching. I don't think Delaney even acknowledges any of the under-age teams and I doubt he knows if we have a women's team or a women's league!
There have been cut backs at all levels but Delaney still tries to justify his €350,000 a years salary (it's more that what Barak Obama earns). Even without all the crisis and ****-ups, he should have been sacked because of his poor record as CEO.
John Delaney is in this for the good of Irish football - he's in it for the good of John Delaney.
I don't know. I don't even remember the story breaking then.
Possibly so, but that is absolutely fine with me.
It doesn't really negate any of what Sadlier said anyway.
Also, a lot of what makes it (even more) hypocritical is what Delaney has said over the last two weeks.
Last edited by osarusan; 08/06/2015 at 9:37 AM.
Short memory?
Indeed.Short memory?
Although it was my only post about it, and it referenced the attractive lady to the left of the headline. I had forgotten her also.
Last edited by osarusan; 08/06/2015 at 10:23 AM.
Are Sadlier's comments online?
I think the reason it didn't really cause a stir is because it was reported on the day of the World Cup final, so was inevitably overshadowed. It was also reported as being from an unnamed source, so other media outlets were probably reluctant to take it on due to obvious uncertainty as to its veracity and for fear of legal action. It was discussed a bit on here, but it was rather brief. Indeed, I see one of my posts on it in the following discussion uncritically asked, "sure why not?"
If the thing was an unconditional compensation (or barely conditional; the only condition being confidentiality unless we qualified for WC2014), I think it's probably fair enough. Our appeals were going nowhere and we were wronged in an appalling manner, so you could argue that accepting some form of recompense for the pain/damage was morally justified. The law of the land operates in that manner. Delaney probably got a good deal and who in their right mind would turn that down (if what I say is the case and FIFA were stupid enough to put so much on the table). But does that really add up? Would FIFA really just throw €5 million around like that for very little material return? Could the FAI's legal case potentially have caused them damage worth up to or more than €5 million so as to motivate such a pay-off? Delaney claims the FAI are open and transparent - in contrast to FIFA - so I'd like the FAI to reveal more in terms of the strength of the supposed legal cases. There also have been inconsistencies in the public FAI statements, which would suggest they're composing a narrative as they go along or we're not hearing the full truth of the matter.
Ah now, sure didn't he buy everyone pints in Tallinn?!
(NSFW!)
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 08/06/2015 at 11:10 AM.
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