Dublin City to seek sanctions

[Ringo]

DUBLIN CITY PRESS RELEASE - Friday, November 5, 2004

Club to seek sanctions
against Shamrock Rovers



DUBLIN CITY FC has asked the Eircom League Board of Control to investigate the details
surrounding Roddy Collins' decision to take over as manager of Shamrock Rovers FC.

The eircom League will host a board of control meeting on Monday (November 8) and Dublin City Chief
Executive, Ronan Seery, has requested to make a statement to the assembly. He will be strongly
recommending that Shamrock Rovers be severly dealt with as a result of their unethical actions
in approaching Roddy Collins whilst manager of Dublin City FC.

He will further make a case to consider the possibility of deducting points or suspending
the club as a result of their attempt to undermine the business workings of a fellow eircom
League club.

"I believe there are solid grounds for this appeal. This approach was timed to have a
maximum negative effect on a club that has conducted it's business in a proper and above board
manner at all times," said Seery.
"The integrity of the game must be protected and this can
only happen if Shamrock Rovers are dealt with in the strongest possible way. We need to send
out the right messages or run the gauntlet of irrevocably undermining the game we are trying
to promote."

[corkharps]

Sneery will probably go to the courts again,same as a few seasons ago,held up the Harps/Longford playoff.

[dcfcsteve]

Oh dear. Looks like sharing Tolka Park has led to a serious touch of the Ollie Byrne mind-set creeping into CHF here....

"We didn't manage to stay in the league through our footballing prowess, and now that we're only 1 more defeat out of 3 away from relegation - hey, let's blame someone else for our situation !!"

CHF haven't a leg to stand on here. It's your own tough sh*t for playing like schoolboys all season that you're in the relegation mess you're in, and it's your own touch sh*t for being cheapskates and not employing Roddy that he's left yees high and dry, as if you did you'd have had a contract in place to prevent this sort of thing happening. Roddy and Rovers have done nothing wrong by the rule book or the law. If you want to complain to the FAI about the ethics of another team's behaviour, then half the league would be in trouble.

Wise yourself up, dry your eyes and say hello to the First Division....

[Colm]

Oh dear. Looks like sharing Tolka Park has led to a serious touch of the Ollie Byrne mind-set creeping into CHF here.....

Was think that aswell.
Fighting with City fans and now crying to the league.
Ollie's teaching him well.

[carrickharp]

"He will further make a case to consider the possibility of deducting points or suspending the club as a result of their attempt to undermine the business workings of a fellow eircom League club."

Seery is nothing but a ****, how dare he talk about morals look at what happened a few seasons ago regarding the playoffs as Corkharps said, I bet his next plan is to appeal that none of the 3 promoted teams grounds are up to Premier division, mark my words.

[patsh]

I bet his next plan is to appeal that none of the 3 promoted teams grounds are up to Premier division, mark my words.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least.
However, he may actually be fighting for CHFDCs survival; They don't earn any money from gate receipts, they don't appear to have many fundraising events.
So, where do they get the money to carry on?
They obviously have backers, but will those backers be happy to continue with a 1st division side?
No disrespect, but the 1st divison is a no-mans land commercially. While not expecting to actually make any money, sponsors/backers would at least get some "glamour" and exposure in the Premier divison. Will they continue on, now that even those little crumbs will disappear?

[Robinski]

In fairness it was a pretty sh*tty thing to do. Collins never surprises anyone with his unpredictability but this is truly rotten.

The flippant manner in which he and the r*vers board have reacted to everyone's disgust speaks for itself.

[Aberdonian Stu]

I really doubt the action is capable of meriting FAI sanction largely because Collins never had a contract per se with City and thus was a free agent. Still a bloody awful thing to do mind.

[LFC in Exile]

I really doubt the action is capable of meriting FAI sanction largely because Collins never had a contract per se with City and thus was a free agent. Still a bloody awful thing to do mind.

That's it exactly. DCFC don't really have a case - it seems nothing unlawful was done but certainly it was sharp practice and does not reflect well on Collins or Shamrock Rovers. The way it was done seems really underhanded. Ronan Seery was on the Joe Duffy show and Roddy Collins started off saying that "somethign immoral" had happened to make him leave. What a smkescreen - typically he ahd to leave before the show ended - just like real life I guess.

I just can't help feeling though that this type of thing does come around to bite clubs on the ass at some stage in the future. Bad karma and all that. When Rovers are in a similar spot they will need to watch out - and how can they take anything Collins at his word now?

Can you imagine the sh ite if Ollie Byrne did what Tony Maguire has done?

And Collins is quoted in today's paper as saying he has left DC in a strong position - jaysus.

[Longfordian]

Then there was his "they would have got relegated ten games ago if it wasn't for me" point..mm Yes they had a sparkling record under you roddy..

[drummerboy]

Makes you wonder what Ronan Seery could do with a club with a decent fan base. Like the man said he never failed to pay any of the clubs wages this year and never had any cheques bouncing. I suppose when its your livelihood it makes you work thalt bit harder to ensure getting backers into a club.

[paudie]

Makes you wonder what Ronan Seery could do with a club with a decent fan base. Like the man said he never failed to pay any of the clubs wages this year and never had any cheques bouncing. I suppose when its your livelihood it makes you work thalt bit harder to ensure getting backers into a club.

Is it his livelihood?

I thought he owned a travel agency or something.

[drummerboy]

No. Its his only means of income. He also has 2 full time staff working in club office, maybe more. Amazing how he keeps it all together. Remarkable actually.

[dcfcsteve]

Amazing ??? Feckin miraculous more like ! You can't tell me a grown man with a family makes a living out of CHF ??? Their attendances don't even cover the rent of Tolka, for feck sake !!

Most Eircom league clubs with 10 times the fan base and better results struggle to stay in the black. How the hell can CHF pay-out to its players, let alone any one else....? Answer me that ! And don't say sponsorship. You only pay in sponsorship what the coverage is worth, and believe me - the media value of being associated with CHF is feck all....

[Éanna]

what collins did was nasty and unforgiveable. but I have no sympathy for seery. he deserves it. no contract is no contract. his rotten little club looks stupid enough without him running off to the league looking for sanctions over something that may have been nasty, but was not against any rules

[Ringo]

what collins did was nasty and unforgiveable. no contract is no contract.

Everyone knows why Collins would'nt sign a contract, brom brum

[LFC in Exile]

what collins did was nasty and unforgiveable. but I have no sympathy for seery. he deserves it. no contract is no contract. his rotten little club looks stupid enough without him running off to the league looking for sanctions over something that may have been nasty, but was not against any rules

Is this the attitude that Rovers would have taken if any other eL club had moved in to take players that had gone weeks without pay and tehrefore were free agents? No they wouldn't - and the fans would have shoted traitor at any player that left. Rovers want it both ways.

[Macy]

Is this the attitude that Rovers would have taken if any other eL club had moved in to take players that had gone weeks without pay and tehrefore were free agents? No they wouldn't - and the fans would have shoted traitor at any player that left. Rovers want it both ways.

They may not have been happy, but there would be nothing they or the league could do about it. Delighted for Seery and his sham of a club.

[patsh]

It's not really hard to see the hand of a certain Mr. Byrne in the background here, all this shouting about "integrity of the game" and "conducts its business in a proper and above board manner "... Its a pity, in some ways, that Seery is such an obnoxious little b*llix......

[Macy]

"conducts its business in a proper and above board manner "...

Surely business conducted in a proper manner does involve written, legal contracts?

As I said in the other thread, Shoddy was in a untenable position with CHF once he had agreed to take over at Rovers next season. If he'd stayed, CHF had been relegated, then he'd left to take over Rovers what would Seery's reaction have been?