The Israelis and Palestinians have been in confict for almost 70 years. There is nothing different about the current phase of this long standing conflict.Originally Posted by GypsyBlackCat
There is no point in looking for logic in the UEFA position.
Legia fans, a great bunch of lads:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwJchdXCcAAgpGY.jpg
Interesting to see what UEFA do over this and the other massive banner at the game last night
Misprint. Their actually just big fans of talcum powder.
And don't like astronomy.
Or Sting.
Or messy hair.
In fact if your hair is messy, you should cover it up, like with a hood or something.
#NeverStopNotGivingUp
That's a old photo maybe 7 or 8 years old now. This is what they had last night.
https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/...06169681_n.jpg
Sligo Rovers and Derry were lucky uefa didn't fine them must have been a dozen Palestine flags and a banner saying solidarity with Gaza at the Derry game vs that Welsh club
Aberystwyth had poppies on their jerseys also.
Whats the 6<1 on the banner about?
Manager: Fergal, have you your boots with ya?
Fergal: Ya, I have them here.
Manager: Ah good stuff, well give them to this man so, he forgot his!
6 is less than 1. They scored six goals to Celtic's one and lost the game.
Trade union firebrand Brendan Ogle has come to the defence of Dundalk Football Club fans who unfurled a Palestinian flag at a European match and landed the club with a massive €18,000 fine from Uefa. And Mr Ogle - a season ticket holder and lifelong fan of the club - has issued a formal complaint to the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland (BAI) against RTE and the station's soccer pundit Richard Sadlier.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news....bn7OEKxm.dpuf
Getting ridiculous at this stage.
its a ****ing joke ffs
I don't see his point really. the sindo has confirmed with uefa that we have gotten the fine. so that dispels the conspiracy theories from the SSA.
as for sitting with suits- ST were invalid for the match so he choose to sit with the suits rather than show solidarity.
would love to know were people like him were in 2012 when we were rock bottom and needed publicity to help our plight. he was nowhere to be seen.
Long Live King Kenny
http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/2900...medium=twitter
Linfield fined 15,000 I think it said for unprohibated standing at Europa league game. UEFA stuck for cash or something?
The Broadcasting Act crossed my mind as well after seeing Sadlier's contribution. There was a recent complaint upheld in relation to a discussion on same sex marriage on rte Mooney Show(I think).It was clear that soccer republic programme was one sided and did not give those who expressed solidarity with the people being bombed in Gaza any opportunity to put their case. Instead they were called "not real fans"
It was clear that rte news had a certain line on the war on Gaza, you would not know who fired the shells which killed many civilians in the UN schools by looking at the news on rte tv for example.
I think the producers on soccer republic forgot that they work for a public funded/owned broadcaster. As for Sadlier he works for the Sindo also; a private company who can and do take sides in debates as they have in this conflict/war. Very amateur behaviour from both Sadlier and soccer republic to not realise that they were operating under the broadcasting act.
Last edited by wonder88; 31/08/2014 at 8:50 PM.
What did RTÉ broadcast or Sadlier say exactly that was in breach of any duties either had under the Broadcasting Act? What case do the perpetrators have that wasn't aired? They broke the rules and knew full well they were doing so.
Sadlier said of those who waved the flags: "The problem here is a small group of of people - I don't like calling them fans - have completely stitched up the club." He advised to "stop calling them supporters" before stating they should be banned from football for life for willfully and deliberately defying the club whilst knowing their actions would result in heavy punishment. He said nothing about them being drunks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sGQ8iCGksw
The SSA only care for the old freedom-of-speech chestnut when it suits them then, is it?...
My mistake, he did not say they were drunk, it was on twitter maybe the suggestion was made, that is why I put ?. Edit it now.
The case Ogle is making is that there should be an opposite point of view put in the discussion. Sometime freedom of speech means having to listen to what many people consider silly or stupid arguments.
Does the Broadcasting Act stipulate that such balance is necessary? Maybe it does; I've not read it.
What is the opposing argument anyway?
AFAIK, the BAI complaints mechanism that Ogle is using applies to news and current affairs programming, not sports. Sadlier was asked for his view on a football matter - the UEFA fine and its implications for Dundalk - not for his views on the middle east, thereby keeping the discussion firmly away from news and current affairs. I'd be surprised if the complaint was entertained, but how the code was interpreted in the Mooney case was very unexpected. It's led to a great deal of uncertainty and allows anybody to gripe if they feel that balance is missing from a broadcast, even where none is needed (like a concert or book review for instance).
Last edited by Eminence Grise; 31/08/2014 at 9:49 PM.
Hello, hello? What's going on? What's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here!
- E Tattsyrup.
St Johnstone fined the same amount for the same "offence"
Consistent at least.
The problem here is not that Dundalk were fined but the people who caused them to be fined.
By all means show support for whatever cause you want but be prepared to accept responsibility for your actions.
Palestine are a FIFA and AFC member. Its not like they were waving Kosovo or Northern Cyprus flags (which would be much more confrontational)
The Legia display is right. Uefa care more about €€€ than football. This is a huge financial setback for small club's like Dundalk and Inverness.
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Certain people and their social media soapboxes have gone oddly into radio silence about the whole thing since it came out about the similar fines to other clubs, didn't see that one coming at all!
Eh? Think you miss the point, again. The fines for all the listed clubs are stupid, even Legia.
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