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Thread: Republic of Ireland V Oman 3rd September 2014 & Georgia 7th September 2014

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    Republic of Ireland XI v Georgia:
    Forde,
    Coleman, O'Shea, Wilson, Ward;
    McCarthy, Whelan;
    Walters, Quinn, McGeady;
    Keane.

    Interesting how it was listed.
    5 man midfield it seems, Walters and McGeady on the wings. Quinn ahead of Hoolahan?
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    I assume Quinn will tuck in and Walters will push out wide when defending, but in attack Walters will go up top.

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    let's get physical...

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    F*** sake. Walters starting and Long on the bench again. The definition of insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over and over and over again expecting a different outcome.

    He isn't even getting in the Stoke team anymore FFS.

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    Will Shane Long have to wait until he is 30 to get a game for Ireland.
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    i've been critical of long on here due to his erratic finishing but i think he offers much more to the team - to any team - than walters. otherwise no real complaints.

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    Walters being in the team and neither Long, Hoolahan or Doyle being in the team is just f***ing insanity. It is negative and it has never worked.

    Walters up front with Keane does not work. He can't hold the ball up, he is immobile, he single-handedly breaks down every counter attack, he doesn't score goals, he has a poor touch and he cannot pass the ball. Walters being on the wing is just as ridiculous.

    If you can't/won't/too chicken**** to play Long up front, play him or Doyle on the wing.

    Jesus Christ all the guy has is workrate (Something Long and Doyle already have in spades).

    Kazakhstan away all over again. A mountain to climb as soon as the f***ing teamsheet is announced.

    He doesn't even have any match practice bar a Capital One Cup game and he hasn't even been training fully!!!!

    Furious about this TBH. Shameful.

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    Walters' goalscoring record isn't much different than Long's, except unlike Long he gets his goals in competitive games. I'd still go for Long but there's not much between the two players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    Walters being in the team and neither Long, Hoolahan or Doyle being in the team is just f***ing insanity. It is negative and it has never worked.

    Walters up front with Keane does not work. He can't hold the ball up, he is immobile, he single-handedly breaks down every counter attack, he doesn't score goals, he has a poor touch and he cannot pass the ball. Walters being on the wing is just as ridiculous.

    If you can't/won't/too chicken**** to play Long up front, play him or Doyle on the wing.

    Jesus Christ all the guy has is workrate (Something Long and Doyle already have in spades).

    Kazakhstan away all over again. A mountain to climb as soon as the f***ing teamsheet is announced.

    He doesn't even have any match practice bar a Capital One Cup game and he hasn't even been training fully!!!!

    Furious about this TBH. Shameful.
    Breathe......

    Seems he's playing RW. Coleman overlapping. Was between himself, Brady and Pilkington for that position. Would have gone for Brady myself. Once Brady is on the bench, I assume Quinn comes in for his set piece delivery then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Walters' goalscoring record isn't much different than Long's, except unlike Long he gets his goals in competitive games. I'd still go for Long but there's not much between the two players.
    Because Walters starts competitive games and Long doesn't.

    Long is a far better player than Walters and his performances for Ireland have been infinitely better. Walters offers nothing in overall play and he doesn't even have regular club football to back him up now.

    It's Astana all over again.

    I don't see how putting that team out is going to get us a result. No cohesiveness to it whatsoever. It's extremely negative. Same old crap.

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    We all have differing opinions as to who should be in the team.
    But on match day that should be put aside and back the lads.

    Gutted I'm not there, first game I've missed away in years.

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    bar quinn, this is probably the team trap would have gone for if he was still there. and who knows, he may even have gone with quinn given andrews/green stock has fallen.

    at least there's no simon cox lads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the doc View Post
    We all have differing opinions as to who should be in the team.
    But on match day that should be put aside and back the lads.

    Gutted I'm not there, first game I've missed away in years.

    COYBIG
    I echo this. Gameday. Doesn't matter who's starting for the next 3 hours. Time to get behind them.

    I'm a bit more optimistic after seeing that lineup. Yes it's a Trap lineup, but Trap got us results away from home. It looks set up to keep it tight for the first 20-30 mins and with Long, Doyle, Brady to come on in the second half, I think we can nick this. (I'm always more optimistic without a skip of whiskey on me)

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    I look forward to Bunsen Honeydew's excuses when things start going pear shaped.

    When is the last time Jon Walters has had anything resembling a good game for Ireland? Austria? And even then he was partly responsible for their equalising goal. When is the last time Shane Long or Kevin Doyle have had a bad game?

    I mean I slag Paul Green but even he has had one or two decent games and he was never as entrenched in the team as Walters...

    I hope the Keane and Walters that showed up against Portugal aren't playing tonight.....

    Wes Hoolahan not in the team when he's been our best player in 75% of the friendly games he's played....... oh boy. *Knocks head against a wall*

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    Because Walters starts competitive games and Long doesn't.

    Long is a far better player than Walters and his performances for Ireland have been infinitely better. Walters offers nothing in overall play and he doesn't even have regular club football to back him up now.

    It's Astana all over again.

    I don't see how putting that team out is going to get us a result. No cohesiveness to it whatsoever. It's extremely negative. Same old crap.
    Walters has started 8, Long has started 6, and Long has more sub appearances. Doyle's last bad game was when he steamed around and got himself suspended from a crucial Euro Championship playoff and he's barely played since. Long has had plenty of games where he's been anonymous too.
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    Astana again. Walters starts, plays crap, Keane out of the game, we are losing and depend on a Long/Doyle/Hoolahan substitution to change the game.

    I heard the same reasons for Walters starting that game and look what happened like....

    Bitterly disappointed about this but at least it can't possibly get any worse after seeing the teamsheet.

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    Interesting side. I think it just reflects the fact that this is an away game. Quinn and Walters offer more tactical flexibility than Hoolahan and Long, perhaps more defensive proficiency. Makes sense to select them, even if I am disappointed Long isn't starting.

    Would've preferred a 'proper' winger there instead of Walters but O'Neill obviously values his workrate and that's fair enough in the context of the match.

    Presumably, Quinn will straddle a vertical line in front of the base of Whelan and McCarthy, with the option for one of them to push on beside Quinn. Delighted to see Quinn get his competitive start too.

    Good to see Wilson in there at centre-half. Not a big Ward fan but would rather have Wilson in the centre than Keogh

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    Disappointed Whelan starting ahead of Gibson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post

    Presumably, Quinn will straddle a vertical line in front of the base of Whelan and McCarthy, with the option for one of them to push on beside Quinn. Delighted to see Quinn get his competitive start too.
    yeah this will be interesting. it wouldn't surprise me if quinn plays left midfield, where he can cover ward, with mcgeady on the right and walters a more orthodox front man.

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    I think you're giving Walters an unduly hard time, TOWK. It's a conservative selection that harks back to Trap's days, but, then, Trap did get us away results. As Tony in Tbilisi says, at least we do have game-changing options from the bench.

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