QuoteThats rich coming from you. You sent Rovers fans PMs with all kinds of abuse. Is that not attacking the poster?Originally Posted by Guerzy
KOH
I think there is a serious point to be made here, which some of the previous posters have touched upon.
First of all let me say I've been a Rovers supporter since the 1970's (as soon as I was old enough for my Da to bring me to Milltown). There has always been a rivalry between Bohs and Rovers but my recollection of the games at Milltown in the 70s and 80s was that it never manifested itself in violence of any sort - and this was at a time when hooliganism was at its most vicious across the water in Ingerlund.
I don't know what has happened in the last 15 - 20 years but these days I just cannot bring myself to actually go and support my team at a game due to the intimidating atmosphere generated by a sizeable amount of Rovers' following. It's sad. I'm not the only one who feels like this - there are 4 generations of Rovers supporters (or rather, people who would like to continue to support Rovers) in my family and none of us go to the matches any more. I have many more friends who feel the same way.
For football to grow in this country, it needs to be all welcoming. Everybody who goes to a match deserves to feel safe and secure no matter what team they support. I'm sure there are many others like me who won't go to matches any more because of the scum who have hijacked the game for the sake of their own sick amusement. I think it's up to the clubs to do something about this. I can understand any concern clubs might have with regard to losing attendance money but it's my opinion that, in the long run, more people will go to the games if troublemakers are banned.
Thats rich coming from you. You sent Rovers fans PMs with all kinds of abuse. Is that not attacking the poster?
KOH
Marvellous stuffI never denied it. I served my time. Cant we all just get along
KOH
A couple of things....
1) There's two sides to this, yet to me it seems like Rovers are always the ones that get the blame. Both Bohs and Rovers have hooligan elements in their clubs.
2)All clubs have a certain element who are up for it - witness the trouble in the cross earlier in the season, in flancare - certainly far from being one sided. Both Bohs and Rovers, but Rovers to a bigger extent IMO, suffer from opposition fans expecting trouble and being ready to take any opportunity (and then whinge when they get twátted, and call Rovers Scum)
3) The Guards never seem to arrest anyone - yet people want suspects to get life bans without convictions, let alone arrests. It's the guards job to keep the peace, prevent crime and solve it if it does take place - it's their job ffs.
4) The guards haven't a clue on policing football matches. I've been to many high profile football matches in the UK, and I'm often shocked when I go to Dublin Derbies at the lack of an effective police presence.
5) Clubs can only be responsible for the actions at the ground. Conliffe Road or Pearse Street, doesn't matter - the clubs can't be expected to control the whole city. The Guards on the other hand should have proper spotters....
6) The media in this country just look for any excuse to play down the league. Again, having been to hundreds of matches in the UK, the front page news here wouldn't even warrant a mention there. To a certain extent it is handbags.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Ok genius all ears for your suggestions............
KOH
Talking through your arse as usual. Tell that to the UEFA official in Liberec who commended us. So in your book ALL Rovers fans, male, female, young, old even the guys in wheelchairs are trouble? You were banned recently but now you should be banned permanently for being so irretrievably stupid.
What about my friend who nearly lost an eye when he got glassed in the face in the horseshoe last year?
Never heard about any murder in longford
KOH
Rovers have the reputation, and whereever they go they have people ready to have a pop at them given the chance. Not saying all Rovers fans are angels or innocents, but if you're ignoring all the other factors then you're not taking the issue seriously. And no I wasn't at that game, as I was on honeymoon, but I was at the game earlier in the season and it was six of one, half a dozen of the other. Wasn't the trouble at the cross earlier in the season actually started by Cork fans? But sure, don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant....
btw, so the BSC are totally blameless in any of the trouble, even the most staunch () Bohs fan wouldn't claim the trouble at Bohs v Rovers games is all one way...
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
The only trouble I heard of in Longford at the last game was when one of the Longford fans involved in the fighting with the Rovers fans earlier this season was spotted by a car load of Hoops in town and given a couple of slaps, they remembered him from before and told him at the time they'd get him if they ever saw him again. He was as bad as they were for rowing earlier in the year and people have confirmed this but they still shouldnt have assaulted him again
Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.
I'm not admitting to any "massive problem" and I'm not trying to defend the indefensible. And if you knew me I'm the last person to hang around with them. But you never will know me cos I'd be scared your stupidity would have an affect on me.
" A good majority "? Wrong again but you've never been right here. I should open my eyes?!! Go pass your junior cert.........
KOH
So a few internet saddo's like Cardiff and suddenly they're linked to the soul crew. Give me a break. Even the ultra's are just about 10-15 people. Not enough to be a majority, even if you ignore the fact that the only link is that they clubs play in green.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Guerzy, you really need help mate. You are completely and utterly obsessed with Rovers as your posts on here prove. As for your PMs - Attacking and insulting people by PM is very, very sad.
PS I've a feeling that signature is going to get you banned again.
KOH
No One Likes Us, We Don't Care
It's a while since I've been on that site, but the Ultras are still only 10-15 people. Hardly a majority, even given their small crowds. Christ, if you're scared of the likes of Dejan god help you on a night out in any town in the country....
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Well foot.ie links to the ultra's site, so I suppose Adam condones violence as well then
All those "links" of the green brothers are between 5 or 6 (max) internet geeks on both sides...
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Do you write for the herald?! Can you be this stupid? How can you stand up there rainman? I cant answer your questions anymore because I feel soory for you..........
KOH
Oi! Who you calling a saddo?
I'm a member of Cardiff and go to about a half dozen games a season. It's certainly not a figment of my imagination BUT the Ultras have no links with Cardiff.
KOH
No One Likes Us, We Don't Care
Out of curiosity, why do you follow Cardiff?
Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.
Just because I'm sticking up for you, doesn't mean I'm just going to pass up opportunities when they present themselves....Oi! Who you calling a saddo?
I'm a member of Cardiff and go to about a half dozen games a season. It's certainly not a figment of my imagination BUT the Ultras have no links with Cardiff.
KOH
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
REBEL ARMY!
Champions!
Calling yourself an army, that's a terrible link to many violent organisations throughout the world...
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
REBEL ARMY!
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