Fox Hunting

[Macy]

But unlike ourselves most animals kill only for food.

Ironically, foxes are one of those animals that kills for fun.

[liamon]

[QUOTE=eoinh]...
BTW if you think that the moden rural Ireland is the actual natural system that would be there without mans interference youre living in a dream world.
...[QUOTE]

I never said it was a natural ecosystem, but it's a lot closer to one than anything you find in the middle of a housing estate in Dublin.
A knackers horse running wild, stray cat and a few pigeons sh*tting everywhere? Lovely.

My point is that people value animals rights as if they were equal to human rights. Hell, some people even claim it's murder. YEah, can't see anyone getting life over that one.

I think this is because the individuals are now divorced from the reality of dealing with animals on a farm setting. We slaughter them every day coz it gives us pleasure to eat them and it's fine. But when we kill them for pleasure, it's wrong. Either way, it's killing to provide us with pleasure. We don't need to do either.

And even then, it's only wrong if we kill them with dogs (completely natural hunting thing!). It's fine if we do it with guns or fishing rods.

Hypocrisy. All the vegetarians on here can complain away, The rest of you, go hang your heads in shame.

As for making it a fair fight, how fair is the fight when you have a fishing rod and the prey weighs only a fraction of your weight? Get real.

[Macy]

One I never see alive is a hedgehog though. Do they really exist alive, or do they just enter the world as flattened dark objects on roads?

Actually, never come across them myself here either. However, Samson the dog tends to escort any animals off the premises fairly quickly though

[sylvo]

Ironically, foxes are one of those animals that kills for fun.

Well farmers dogs sometimes have a nasty habit of killing sheep, but you don't see any cross country chases after rover as a result of it.

[lopez]

...Hypocrisy. All the vegetarians on here can complain away, The rest of you, go hang your heads in shame...

You're right. I just wish I could give up the bacon sarnies.

[sylvo]

[QUOTE=Conor74]Deer numbers around thse parts seems to have gone through the roof in recent years. Seeing a deer used to be pretty surprising, now people have to drive carefully at night in case one of them decides to wander onto the road. They're all over the place...and getting cheeky with it too.

So whats this drive carefully at night craic all of a sudden cause of deers, did yer not drive carefully at night before they showed up then.

[lopez]

Well farmers dogs sometimes have a nasty habit of killing sheep, but you don't see any cross country chases after rover as a result of it.

No. Farmer Palmer just gets his gun out and shoots the f*cker. Which is what should happen with the foxes.

I've seen Hedgehogs around too. They used to come in and nick the cat food and rattle the plates at night where I used to live, but they too are mostly flattened on the road. For some reason they just like to sleep there. I stopped the car one night and gently kicked one off the road. Of course, didn't thank me for it.

[liamon]

Actually, never come across them myself here either. However, Samson the dog tends to escort any animals off the premises fairly quickly though

That's cruel.
Ban Samson now!
Better again, charge him with attempted assault and lock him up for 5 years.

[sylvo]

[QUOTE=Conor74]Nah, at nighttime you could cut loose because you could see the lights of an approaching car and be well warned of trouble.



And there's me wondering how come there's so much carnage on the roads.

[Macy]

Found this on another mb....

Herb-Grilled Fox Recipe (serves four)

Ingredients:
Chunks of skinless fox meat (6 to 8 ounces each), trimmed and rinsed
"Fleur de Sel" salt and freshly ground black pepper
Crushed red chili flakes
3 cloves garlic, minced
2 tablespoons each chopped fresh rosemary and flat-leaf parsley
1/4 cup fresh lemon juice, plus 4 lemon wedges for serving
1/4 cup extra-virgin olive oil; more for drizzling

Directions:
Lightly wet a chunk of fox with cold water and place it between two sheets of plastic wrap. Pound it into a broad, flat sheet about 1/4-inch thick, using a meat hammer, the side of a heavy cleaver, or a skillet. Pound the other chunks the same way and arrange them on a baking sheet.
Generously season each chunk on both sides with salt and pepper and a pinch or two of chili flakes. Sprinkle both sides with the garlic and rosemary. Drizzle both sides with the lemon juice and olive oil and pat into the meat with your fingertips. Refrigerate the chunks for 20 minutes while you prepare the grill.
Heat a salamander to high or prepare a hot charcoal fire. Brush and oil the grill grate.
Arrange the fox chunks on the grill grate and grill until cooked and firm to the touch, 1 to 2 minutes per side. (Use a long, wide spatula to move and turn the chunks.) Transfer the chunks to a platter. Drizzle with olive oil, sprinkle parsley over and serve immediately with lemon wedges for squeezing.

[Pat O' Banton]

If only someone told the hounds, raw fox is so working class and completely out of place with the social elite at a hunt.

[sligoman]

It's nice to see a good reply to this thread anyway.People obviously have strong feelings for or against the ban

[lopez]

Found this on another mb....

If you can eat a fox, I say go for it. But I think the thing would be highly disgusting: Oscar did. Anyway you won't have much left after Bertie Basset's ripped it to pieces.

Bloke where I work is always on the look out for any of us hitting Pheasants with the train, so that he can go and pick them up. You can imagine what it's like for a human being hit by a train let alone a Pheasant, and he still thinks their edible. Country bumkin wannabees, I'd say.

[Éanna]

Most other activities that involve people with more money than sense dressing up in silly clothes and indulging in acts of sadism happen behind closed doors
its vile, cruel and wrong. OUT

[eoinh]

Either way, Rover has a short lifespan. Because life for animals can be nasty, brutish and short, and that's just the way it is.

Not if youre a tortise!

[sylvo]

I take it you are trying humour and not really blaming me for road accidents...

No, I can't say that I was trying any humour, and I would only blame or accuse a person for anything if the facts are there in front of me. So no, how then can I be blaming you personally of anything.

[lopez]

Most other activities that involve people with more money than sense dressing up in silly clothes and indulging in acts of sadism happen behind closed doors
its vile, cruel and wrong. OUT

Only if (at least) one of the party is objecting.

[Macy]

If you can eat a fox, I say go for it. But I think the thing would be highly disgusting: Oscar did. Anyway you won't have much left after Bertie Basset's ripped it to pieces.

Bloke where I work is always on the look out for any of us hitting Pheasants with the train, so that he can go and pick them up. You can imagine what it's like for a human being hit by a train let alone a Pheasant, and he still thinks their edible. Country bumkin wannabees, I'd say.

Well on the mb I was on they were talking about organising an urban hunt, with their pet dogs, baseball bats and them on mountain bikes....

I've never tried pheasant, or most "game" meats. Not for any reason bar the thought of it hanging up for six months before you eat it!

[lopez]

Well on the mb I was on they were talking about organising an urban hunt, with their pet dogs, baseball bats and them on mountain bikes....

I've never tried pheasant, or most "game" meats. Not for any reason bar the thought of it hanging up for six months before you eat it!

If the hoi poloi are involved you can bet your sweet Irish ass it will be banned.

A country hotel near where we lived used to have pheasant shoots.

They were always escaping and going all over the place.

When the shooting season started, most of them were so fat and tame they would waddle up to anyone with a gun in his hand...BOOOM...

In my experience they are the most stupidest bird around with the exception of Jordan. Their mates get run over/hit by a train and they hang around with him waiting to see him wake up. Then they wonder why they are joining him in Pheasant heaven. One week along the M25 each day I spotted another joining their pals, all in a row. BTW, pheasant is pretty awful. Keeps repeating.

[eoinh]

What about the eradication of natural systems like the amazon rain forest?

Or the killing of rare species like blue whale, mountain guerellas or the last known endogenous female bear in the pyrennes last week?

Much of the environmental problems that the world is starting to suffer from and which will get progressively worse can be traced back to unregulated destruction of habitats and flora and fauna.

There are now more environmental refugees in the world than political.