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    That Article in the Programme last night!

    Anybody read the article on the history of Football in the Cork City programme last night? Pretty interesting with the author tracing the games origins back to Japan and China.

    There were a few little jibes thrown in as well, some of them very wierd.

    For example "Those of us who witnessed the 4:1 drubbing of Waterford United recently know the satisfaction that you can get from beating a nearby rival, even if they are not a serious threat to us. Uniteds record in the Munster Cup since Cork City was established is clear evidence of our relative standards. The concept of a grudge match goes back a lot further than our 20 years in existence. China and Japan played each other regularly some 3000 years ago. I expext this was not an amicable encounter either. The ancient Romans played a 27-a-side 50 minute game that was played with such pride and passion that it was normal for two thirds of the players to be hospitalised after the game, an occurrence not unusual at the RSC.


    He goes on later - In the same way that the blitz and other air attacks pale into insignificance when you consider what was done to Hiroshima. We have become used to people across the water moaning about nothing.

    He then deals with the football played in England in the fourtenth century - King Edward II of England, already troubled by the fact that his father had failed to quell the risings of transvestites William Wallace and Robert The Bruce, passed a law threatening imprisonment for anyone caught playing football in England.

    Robert The Bruce and William Wallace were transvestites? Where did he get that from?


    The best bit is saved for last. The writer in the programme states that Oliver Cromwell was a keen footballer in his youth "which makes me wonder why he landed in Drogheda."

    Surely the oddest piece ever in the Cork City Programme.
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    Aye, I got great joy out of beating Waaaahhhhhuuurrrrffffuuurr in their own back garden!

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    pretty wierd stuff all right
    save the sheep shaggers bring back beheadings for waherford

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    Quote Originally Posted by eoinh


    Surely the oddest piece ever in the Cork City Programme.
    The phrase 'tongue in cheek' springs to mind...it's not like WB was stating a FACT about the RSC!

    We do our best to give CCFC fans as much variety as possible. Don't forget our Donnie Darko article! Or Owen Da Gama being overweight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Donie Forde
    The phrase 'tongue in cheek' springs to mind...it's not like WB was stating a FACT about the RSC!

    We do our best to give CCFC fans as much variety as possible. Don't forget our Donnie Darko article! Or Owen Da Gama being overweight!

    Donie
    I know it was tongue in cheek and it actually was very interesting. I enjoyed it. The city programmre is top notch imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eoinh
    I know it was tongue in cheek and it actually was very interesting. I enjoyed it. The city programmre is top notch imo.
    Yeah, I know - I was merely pointing that out to the general populace: otherwise we'll have the Blues getting the hump about a perceived insult, and all the Dubs and a certain Longfordian saying we've got a chip about the RSC boys...

    Enough drama in Irish football this week!!

    Anyway, thanks for the positive words about City Edition...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Donie Forde
    otherwise we'll have the Blues getting the hump about a perceived insult

    And we couldn't have that now could we !!
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    Also he refers to Hillsborough as "a mere drop in the ocean".This is a disgusting reference to an appaling diaster at a football match that had nothing to do with football violence .It was due to Police incompetence. Shame on the writer to insult those who died on that terrible day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie Sky
    Also he refers to Hillsborough as "a mere drop in the ocean".This is a disgusting reference to an appaling diaster at a football match that had nothing to do with football violence .It was due to Police incompetence. Shame on the writer to insult those who died on that terrible day.
    it does sound bad, but I'm sure that he was just refering to the fact that there have been many other football related disasters see here
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    Let's not get too carried away on the old moral high ground here lads. One article does not ruin all the work of the team. Sure, it may have been controversial, but in comparison to other shocking things that are paraded on our TV screens everyday, maybe some things should be put into perspective...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eoinh
    Robert The Bruce and William Wallace were transvestites? Where did he get that from?
    Probably some reference to the idea that every Scotsman wears a kilt
    don't worry, they couldn't hit an elephant at this dis......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie Sky
    Also he refers to Hillsborough as "a mere drop in the ocean".This is a disgusting reference to an appaling diaster at a football match that had nothing to do with football violence .It was due to Police incompetence. Shame on the writer to insult those who died on that terrible day.
    I, also, was appalled at this reference. I think the author should take a long, hard look at himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie Sky
    Also he refers to Hillsborough as "a mere drop in the ocean".This is a disgusting reference to an appaling diaster at a football match that had nothing to do with football violence .It was due to Police incompetence. Shame on the writer to insult those who died on that terrible day.
    I thought the same thing...to trivialise such a tragic event and put it into context of football violence when it has been proven that it was nothing to do with violence was bang out of order i feel. Its all good and well having a tongue in cheek article but you should still not trivialise such events..

    A major blip in what is consistently a great read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Smith
    Probably some reference to the idea that every Scotsman wears a kilt

    He probably meant Sid Wallace, late of.......................you guessed it Waterford!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie Sky
    Shame on the writer to insult those who died on that terrible day.

    Quote Originally Posted by colblimp
    I, also, was appalled at this reference. I think the author should take a long, hard look at himself.

    Sounds to me like some Liverpool "fans" have absorbed the same mentality of so many Merseyside folk of wallowing in their “victim status.”
    Take the article for what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    Sounds to me like some Liverpool "fans" have absorbed the same mentality of so many Merseyside folk of wallowing in their “victim status.”
    Take the article for what it is.
    a ****take, why cant people see this? for gods sake he's on about ancient japanese soccer and ye're offended by an ironic comparsion to an event that doesnt concern ye?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    Sounds to me like some Liverpool "fans" have absorbed the same mentality of so many Merseyside folk of wallowing in their “victim status.”
    Take the article for what it is.

    a ****take, why cant people see this? for gods sake he's on about ancient japanese soccer and ye're offended by an ironic comparsion to an event that doesnt concern ye?
    Us football "supporters" saw what went on at Hillsborough, saw 96 football "fans" die due to police incompetence and are pointing out that any such event should not be trivialised or likened to football violence (nothing ironic about it gav)... As a football supporter, Hillsborough should concern you...It was a tragic event. If you think it is ok to trivialise it then it says a hell of a lot about you.

    Peadar, you're comments are a disgrace and show you to be an ignorant fool.......Merseyside Folk lost their fathers, sons & daughters and have not seen any justice come to those reponsible and Law abandon them. They have seen the names of their loved ones killed blackened without justification and no proper apology given. All football supporters should be unhappy with this because it could have been any clubs supporters involved..A sure they're only wallowing in self pity

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthoftheLee
    A sure they're only wallowing in self pity
    era sure didnt the Sun say what really went on there

    As if there are not already enough reason not to buy that rag already then they ran /that/ story
    Oh no not them again

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthoftheLee
    Peadar, you're comments are a disgrace and show you to be an ignorant fool.......Merseyside Folk lost their fathers, sons & daughters and have not seen any justice come to those reponsible and Law abandon them. They have seen the names of their loved ones killed blackened without justification and no proper apology given. All football supporters should be unhappy with this because it could have been any clubs supporters involved..A sure they're only wallowing in self pity
    First of all I think you're taking the authors comments out of context and finding insult where none was intended.

    Secondly, there has been tragedy around the world since time began.
    We've all suffered some tragedy in our lives.
    Some people use it as an excuse for everything that's wrong in their lives. Others pick themselves up and move on.
    Ticketless Liverpool supporters need to wake up to the fact that they were the ultimate cause of the crush. We could argue about this forever but it would restore the lives which were lost.
    Of course I'm an ingornant fool for having an opinion which differs from yours.
    Oh, the irony in your statement!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    Ticketless Liverpool supporters need to wake up to the fact that they were the ultimate cause of the crush.

    Of course I'm an ingornant fool for having an opinion which differs from yours.
    Oh, the irony in your statement!

    Yes you just proved your ignorance with that last post. An INDEPENDENT investigation was carried out and found that the fans were not responsible for disaster in any way. There were very few ticketless fans FACT. All the fans ended up being herded into the one section of the stand and that was the main reason for the disaster. This is because someone panicked and ordered the gate to be opened.

    Coming out with stupid incorrect comments and generalisations of people is ignorant. Having an opinion is not.

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