QuoteEric, this is hearsay.
If any on it turns out to be true, then we can forget about winning the title next season.
Manger to manage, players to play, and the chairman/board to ensure that the condidtions are right to make the above two things happen.
I've been talking to one or two people during the week and found out one or two interesting things.
-Lennox and Dolan have not spoken to each other for over a month
-Hoggie, Woods and Mcnulty(Cork lads) have all been offered new contracts
-Dan Murray ( Captain) has not yet been offered a new contract
-Lennox wants a team made up of all Cork Lads to challenge for the title
-Dolan has not been offered an extension to his contract yet so is therefore picking Cork lads for the team in an attempt to avoid stepping on Lennox's toes
-There is a clear split in the ranks between players, 2 seperate groups
Now I'm a Cork lad and would love to see a team made up of all Cork lads go on and win the league. That's the idealist in me. The realist in me tells me this is not possible and will never happen.
Dolan was talking to one of the players fathers this week and told him that the reason some players were not in the team at the moment was not because of their form or the teams form but simply because they are not from Cork. That is an absolute disgrace and the more I thought about it the more it made sense to me.
-Fenn was playing brilliant and suddenly got dropped and now can't get back in the team.
-Danny Murphy was in with a shout for our player of the season, gets suspended for one game and can't get back in the team.
-Denis Behan bangs in goals for the U21's for fun and couldn't get a run in the team when Flynny couldn't hit a barn door!!!
Those are just 3 that spring to mind. Lennox told players when the were signing for the club, including non-corkonians, of the ambition he had for the club. So why now is he going backwards????
Why is he interfering with team selection????
Why will Dolan not do his job as team manager and pick the players he wants in his team?????
Why, since Georgie made his little outburst to the paper, has there been less non-corkonians in the team????
I know people will point to the run of 7 wins and say 'why change a winning team?' and I agree but that run is over now and it's time to find out whats really going on in the club. Not playing players because of where they are from is nothing short of racism!!!!!
I wanna know who is running the club, Lennox, Dolan, or Georgie???
Eric, this is hearsay.
If any on it turns out to be true, then we can forget about winning the title next season.
Manger to manage, players to play, and the chairman/board to ensure that the condidtions are right to make the above two things happen.
Last edited by patsh; 05/11/2004 at 2:05 PM.
Are you Éanna in disguise!?Originally Posted by Eric
7 wins and a draw in our last 8 games, I knew Dolan couldn't have orchestrated that. You must be right Eric, Dolan isn't in charge.
Have Boot Disk, will travel
It's not hearsay Patsh, and not being smart but I've actually been trained in spotting and not using hearsay!!!!!
I've been talking to 2 players this week, one of whom is not in the team at the moment, and both of them have told me exactly what I have put up
It could all be coincidence. mmm.
I still think there is an under-current of bad feeling in the squad.
I would hope that Lennox is keeping his nose out of the team affairs and is concentrating on getting a new training complex.
how do we get from:
to:
"Beats me!"
well, you're the one who made the link/jump.
just wondering how you think the chairman can be picking the team based on a post that says he hasn't spoken to the manager in over a month?
That lennox wants a team full of cork lads must compromise Dolan's decision making.
I realise your training prepares you well for this Eric,It's not hearsay Patsh, and not being smart but I've actually been trained in spotting and not using hearsay!!!!!
, but what one or two players say to you IS hearsay until it can be proven.
I also know that you would'nt post these things for mischief, so what you say is quite worrying.....
if this is true then lennox would seriously want to back off...
Joe ...Lennox doesnt have to talk to Dolan to put him under pressure to do things...other people can do this for him...Also the changes were made more than a month ago....
As Eric said, I would love to see a City team full of cork lads win teh title but cant see it happening......If Dolan is dropping players because they are not from cork then thats **** and agree its fuct up....
BUT..............
City are were on a winning/undefeated streak and the players who have come in have played very well and dont deserve to be dropped, It may just be coincidence that al the cork lads came in at the same time.....If he has been told to play cork lads, then why are doyle & Murray still playing??? surely he could play lordan instead of murray and a cork lad up front instead of doyle under that thinking???
I dont know what to believe....Players who are out of hte team usually try to justify why they're not in the team and can come to some strange assumptions...Hopefully this is the case.....
We have a better shape at the moment than when fenn was playing... I am a great fan of fenns and still think he can play a massive part for the club but at the moment we look better with kevin and john up front....
Dan Murphy was unlucky, got injured and greg came in has has doen extremely well, the team has only conceded 2goals in 8 games so who would change this.???
Murray not being offered a new contract is not suprising...probably trying to scare him into redicovering his old form.....
Was the father in question a father of a player in or out of the team.....???
Again if it is true then it doesnt show the chairman or the manager in a great light...The chairman for sticking his noes in where it doesnt belong and the manager for not haveing the balls or principles to stand up to the chairman....IF this is true then dolan would be in his right to resign over the interference and I would stand by his decision and lose all respect for Lennox...Again IF it is true......
Again I think the truth lies in the middle of this somewhere......Hopefully they can sort it out......
realistically, i don't think anyone here knows what, if anything, is going on 'behind the scenes' and discussing it here is unlikely to make us any wiser.
well if it is all true..im with the lads in saying back off lennox....i dont care if the players on the pitch are from mongolia once they win the title in cities colours
Thanks for the info eric. I seriously hope they sort this out indeed I thought they had at the well publicised meeting. What a pity!
What a load of ******
Who told you this? one of the lads who have been dropped let me guess.
7 wins from 8. What manager would risk changing a team.
Spot on! He has a contract for next season anyway so he'd want to shut the **** up and get on with it. He'll be back in the team soon - Greg aint there long.
oh is that a hint...as in our regular left full for most of the season
Not sure what to make of this.
Every source is baised.
Danny has started during the so-called winning run before suspension gave Greg his opportunity.
And why would there be talk of a contract for Dolan if Lennox wasn't happy with him?
It find this hard to believe to be honest ..... as you said yourself it is idealism not realism ..... Has Lennox just u-turned on his ambition for success. Sounds like a mad mans plan really, just look at the quality on the bench.
Those players could have been taking the píss or something !!
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
I'm with Neil on this one. the team is doing well, why change it. Fenn is an excellent player, but we're a better team with him on the bench, same goes for Murphy IMO. As for Dan Murray not getting a new contract, I honestly don't think hes earned it. A lot fo speculation is all this is. I'd love to see a team of all Cork lads, but it won't happen, an Lennox is no fool- he knows that as well as any of us
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