Robbie Horgan on the brink

**KeepersBall** · 11/06/2014, 6:58 PM

Just a note on Vincent Hoey. Sadly he's not in the best of health right now.

The fans are voting with their feet,losing in Athlone would be accepted by many if it hastened Horgans exit

**jinxy lilywhite** · 11/06/2014, 6:58 PM

Why is Horgan considered a mercenary for getting what is in accordance with his contact.
Football management and the civil service must be the only occupation were people aren't judged on their overall performance.
Drogheda offered him the contract and the wage and the terms and conditions. If they realise that they made a bad appointment half way through the season with no terms and conditions to get out of the contract then fault lies entirely with the board.
If drogs go under its not horgans fault either it's purely the board

**Ezeikial** · 11/06/2014, 6:59 PM

Originally Posted by Nesta99

Again though, and the age old problem throughout the league, the budget was set on ifs and buts. A gamble on crowds staying at level x even though an untried manager was at the helm? Doesnt fit with the prudence of prior seasons. That aside so many of the basics on the team side of things are off, like fitness levels, motivation in a derby match, game 1 excluded. O'Brien would get much more from the squad.

Are you suggesting Fabio would make a good gaffer?

**Nesta99** · 11/06/2014, 8:03 PM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Are you suggesting Fabio would make a good gaffer?

Well I dont know if he would or not, I am suggesting that he would do better than Horgan currently and is already on the payroll. I wouldnt be surprised if he is undermining management either, let him pick up the baton!

**dejadem** · 12/06/2014, 9:17 AM

Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite

Why is Horgan considered a mercenary for getting what is in accordance with his contact.

Who said he was a mercenary? He a had a run of something like 9 defeats in 10 league games, with numerous one-sided score lines & performances; the expectation among fans was he would resign on the back of that, he didn't. For the moment he is seeing out his contract until he or the board otherwise decide to take an action.

**dejadem** · 12/06/2014, 9:29 AM

Originally Posted by Nesta99

Again though, and the age old problem throughout the league, the budget was set on ifs and buts. A gamble on crowds staying at level x even though an untried manager was at the helm?

True, but you have a pick base figure x to work from for a budget, all seasons have ifs & buts. Taking numbers from this site, in very simplistic terms a figure of 750 might seem reasonable, looking at the last 4 seasons:

Drogheda - 1,189 (817; 977; 811; 859; 1,106)

This year's average figure will drop quickly, it was boosted by the good opening few games. The Bohs & Limerick home attendances were well below 750, with half the season still to run and results getting worse.

**White Horse** · 12/06/2014, 10:10 AM

Is it true that the fitness coach has been sacked? I heard there were a couple of backroom staff let go.

The lad who told me didn't know why. Could be a budgetary measure, although Drogheda do appear less fitter team than in recent seasons.

Wasn't the previous firness coach the son of the journo who had a go at the the Chairman?

**Acer** · 12/06/2014, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by White Horse

Is it true that the fitness coach has been sacked? I heard there were a couple of backroom staff let go.

The lad who told me didn't know why. Could be a budgetary measure, although Drogheda do appear less fitter team than in recent seasons.

Wasn't the previous firness coach the son of the journo who had a go at the the Chairman?

2 members of staff let go as part of a backroom shakeup. I've heard there will be more changes too, with the aim of surrounding Horgan with more experience.

On the finances/crowds, there really is nothing new here. We're operating on a shoestring, have been for years and will continue to do so for years unless an approach is made for the club by a group with a solid financial & sporting plan. We can't afford to surrender ourselves to another consortium offering a fastfix only to go bust down the line. At the moment, we're a product of our past experiences and complete stringency will always be priority number one.

**chigg89** · 12/06/2014, 1:48 PM

Originally Posted by Acer

consortium offering a fastfix .

fastfix? just like dundalk?download.jpg

**MiniMourinho** · 12/06/2014, 8:45 PM

None of this is new information. Budgets aren't going tits up either. We have been operating on and surviving by tight financial control for years now. The drop off in crowds happened every single year and every year this false debate is drummed up again and again. Any changes currently are because of poor on the field performances.

Unfortunately there will always be those who revel in drama of it all. A number of people get more pleasure from the soap opera than the sport. Thats another thing that will never change.

**Nesta99** · 13/06/2014, 12:53 PM

Im still not going to accept this shoestring line at face value. Either a club can afford payed management and staff, I presume Drogheda have a couple of off field employees - or they cant; shoestring budgets wouldnt be so shoestring if these are luxuries that are not affordable were not indulged. Everybodies basline should be on a rubbish season too. Sligo have feck all to play for for the remainder of the season if European qualification is considered poor return, if their budget projections are too high as a result its likely they have some wriggle room based on the number of years sustained success, as Drogheda are unlikely to have that buffer zone as it stands, shouldnt be planning on such tight margins. As for the fastfix poke - i was beaten to the I see what you did there, but absolutely there is probably a little but of every Dundalk fans thoughts on what if that input goes sour? I dont know the people from fastfix or what their financial contribution is to the club currently with significantly improved gates and other income streams. Match programmes are selling out its seems which now means its not subsidised by the club for example. So there is that room for financial movement if budgets need to be adjusted down for whatever reason. So far though fastfix are bring a level of sustainability about, right down to one of the fastfix guys challanging supporters letting off flares due to the few hundred Euro fine each time it happens, there was no whimsical 'sure whats a few hundred quid' attitude. Money is saved where it can to be spent where its needed, including the away section which is a higher priority to the board than it is to the average Dundalk fan tbh.

**Mr A** · 13/06/2014, 1:27 PM

Match programmes were subsidised? WTF?

**Charlie Darwin** · 13/06/2014, 1:31 PM

Originally Posted by Mr A

Match programmes were subsidised? WTF?

Guessing he means they're selling out, meaning the club aren't losing money on them.

**Mr A** · 13/06/2014, 1:35 PM

If the Harps programme can turn a profit I'd be staggered if the Dundalk one was costing them money in recent years. Maybe there's an accounting thing there- none of the ads count towards programme revenue or something.

**Charlie Darwin** · 13/06/2014, 1:40 PM

Originally Posted by Mr A

If the Harps programme can turn a profit I'd be staggered if the Dundalk one was costing them money in recent years. Maybe there's an accounting thing there- none of the ads count towards programme revenue or something.

Probably worked out pretty expensive in Dundalk after they paid the royalties to Queen for printing the lyrics.

**Dunny** · 13/06/2014, 1:47 PM

Every club here is allowed one eccentric right?? Well Dell is ours for today k

**Nesta99** · 13/06/2014, 4:44 PM

Subsidised, losses covered or whatever - the print quality, amount of content at €3 wouldt cover costs and not filled with advertisments, unless they were nearly all sold then printing costs wouldnt be covered by programme sales hence the shortfall had to be covered. Increased sales less or no loss...