2014 World Cup

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  1. NeverFeltBetter's Avatar

    NeverFeltBetter said:
    Will the inevitable ban only cover international matches?
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    BonnieShels said:
    I'm gonna be all over this Costa Rica team. I despise Greece with all my energy.
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    bennocelt said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    And that's why bbc showed Greece!

    Suarez hasn't a leg to stand on. Did anyone see the BBC footage of the interview with Chiellini? He was pretty frank in his condemnation of Suarez but it's harsh to blame the ref and FIFA - so far at least. The refs can't be expected to see that. And the first 5 times I saw it on TV I thought it was a stupid attempt at a head butt. But the video - not to mention forensic - evidence is totally conclusive. I doubt we'll see Suarez again for a while. Still, he did his job
    Exactly would need two referees to ref an Italian game, ref prob thought "feck not Chiellini on the ground again"
     
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  7. DannyInvincible's Avatar

    DannyInvincible said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    This is not the type of thing anyone wants to see in modern football. Whilst we all watch it over and over again, of course...
     
  8. ArdeeBhoy said:
    Definitely not a pen in my book, so means it probably was?


    And the latest 'defence', is that was an existing 'love-bite' or something...

     
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    pineapple stu said:
    Suarez incident being investigated.

    FIFA’s disciplinary code allows action to be taken retrospectively via video evidence even if the incident has been seen by the referee.
    That's explicitly different to the Premiership, isn't it? Would like to see more of that used, for dives in particular.
     
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    NeverFeltBetter said:
    Would probably overwhelm the system.
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    OwlsFan said:
    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    I'm gonna be all over this Costa Rica team. I despise Greece with all my energy.
    Why? They deserved to win last night with yet another African team sauntering around until they needed a goal and then they upped their game only to lose in the last minute.

    Why is a relatively harmless bite far worse than someone going over the top of the ball trying to do serious injury to someone? Keane's tackle on Haaland or the bite by way of example? Which is worse? I don't quite understand the hysteria about this. It's not eye gouging or anything like that. Stutts often does it in his love making (so his missus tells me). I reckon FIFA will try and dodge the bullet on this one.

    Not sorry to see Italy go. England made them look better than they were. Pirlo will be missed but not the rest of the side or its tactics.
    Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
     
  12. NeverFeltBetter's Avatar

    NeverFeltBetter said:
    They're both bad things that deserve hefty punishment. I think the bite is worse personally - it strikes me as just an extra level of moronically violent, to sink your teeth into another person - and the "hysteria" is probably more to do with the fact that Suarez, aside from the racism, has done this three times in his career. It's amazing that he not only doesn't learn, but persists with the narrative that people/the media are out to get him.

    I would agree on Greece. They work hard and have a system that makes things very difficult for most teams, which I find admirable. They've achieved great things with he resources at their disposal - much like Costa Rica in fact.
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  13. geysir said:
    Very good work by Greece, it was an impressive performance under pressure, I suppose they had to be more adventurous but they could manage an intelligent attractive game plan and do it in style.
    I suppose we can only dream of a performance like that. Sadly, IC were very disappointing and didn't deserve to progress.
    It was some sight to see Karagounis wobble his way on the brink of collapse to take a corner late on and still manage a quality delivery, I don't think he moved a cm after that.
     
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    DannyInvincible said:
    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    Would probably overwhelm the system.
    It might result in a heavier workload initially, but I'm sure the resources are there and you'd eventually hope it would have the overall effect of reducing incidents of suspected simulation anyway. Diving causes enough chaos and headache for the authorities to justify it surely.

    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    Why is a relatively harmless bite far worse than someone going over the top of the ball trying to do serious injury to someone? Keane's tackle on Haaland or the bite by way of example? Which is worse? I don't quite understand the hysteria about this. It's not eye gouging or anything like that. Stutts often does it in his love making (so his missus tells me). I reckon FIFA will try and dodge the bullet on this one.
    It'll be hard for them to ignore, but I think the hysteria might be due to the taboo nature of biting in particular. Biting living flesh is possibly viewed as a child-like or anamalistic regression to some earlier developmental or evolutionary stage.
     
  15. Stuttgart88 said:
    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Biting living flesh is possibly viewed as a child-like or anamalistic regression to some earlier developmental or evolutionary stage.
    Or possibly the act of a total toe rag with self control issues.
     
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    BonnieShels said:
    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    Why? They deserved to win last night with yet another African team sauntering around until they needed a goal and then they upped their game only to lose in the last minute.
    Deserved or not I can still hate them. Admirable performance or not. I can still hate them. Well executed strategy or tactics or not. I can still hate them.

    Why is a relatively harmless bite far worse than someone going over the top of the ball trying to do serious injury to someone? Keane's tackle on Haaland or the bite by way of example? Which is worse? I don't quite understand the hysteria about this. It's not eye gouging or anything like that. Stutts often does it in his love making (so his missus tells me). I reckon FIFA will try and dodge the bullet on this one.
    The hysteria as is true for most things these days is as disgusting as the act.

    I found myself agreeing with Dunphy here. If not for his reasoning but for his statement of everyone needs to put this in perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    I would agree on Greece. They work hard and have a system that makes things very difficult for most teams, which I find admirable. They've achieved great things with he resources at their disposal - much like Costa Rica in fact.
    Feckin' Greeks etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Very good work by Greece, it was an impressive performance under pressure, I suppose they had to be more adventurous but they could manage an intelligent attractive game plan and do it in style.
    I suppose we can only dream of a performance like that. Sadly, IC were very disappointing and didn't deserve to progress.
    It was some sight to see Karagounis wobble his way on the brink of collapse to take a corner late on and still manage a quality delivery, I don't think he moved a cm after that.
    They invented etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    It'll be hard for them to ignore, but I think the hysteria might be due to the taboo nature of biting in particular. Biting living flesh is possibly viewed as a child-like or anamalistic regression to some earlier developmental or evolutionary stage.
    Or he's just a spanner.
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    osarusan said:
    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    a child-like or anamalistic regression to some earlier developmental or evolutionary stage.
    Robbie Savage will be all too familiar with that.
     
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  19. Stuttgart88 said:
    Part of the Suarez offence was the pathetic effort to "simulate" some sort of aggressive action by Chiellini. That in its own right should warrant a 3 game ban. Some of the calls for punishment are OTT but something like a 6 game ban, or a longer ban with part of it suspended, would seem fair. It was a violent cowardly act with a particularly extreme case of attempted deception thrown in.

    The sad thing is that the bubble he operates in will protect him from blame and will lead him to think he's the victim of a witch hunt.
     
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    NeverFeltBetter said:
    He's had seven and ten game bans already. They shouldn't go the other direction.
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