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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Was that not 1978?
    No. Remember the game!

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    On my 11 teams looking at quarter final spots, England, Spain and either Italy or Uruguay are gone. Portugal are very almost gone. Next week gets interesting now in that if some of the big names (Brazil, Holland, Italy/Uruguay, France, Argentina, Germany and Belgium) don't top their group, there could be carnage in the second round. Though most are looking at winning their groups at the moment.

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    Eh...

    Match fixing scandal involving Ghana eh...

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...World-Cup.html
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    Hope Germany & Ghana get through myself...

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    What a ball from Ronaldo.

    Nani is a pathetic excuse for a footballer, he loses the ball every time he gets it. Paulo Bentos selection policy is costing Portugal. Quaresma was one of the best players in the Portuguese league this season and not even in the squad. Adrien and Martins from Sporting Lisbon likewise. This has basically being the same squad for the last few years and he hates making changes
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    It will, yeah.

    US 4 points
    Germany 4 points
    Ghana 1 point
    Portugal 1 point
    Germany would still finish top though, importantly, so they may well be happy enough to play it safe with a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    On my 11 teams looking at quarter final spots, England, Spain and either Italy or Uruguay are gone. Portugal are very almost gone. Next week gets interesting now in that if some of the big names (Brazil, Holland, Italy/Uruguay, France, Argentina, Germany and Belgium) don't top their group, there could be carnage in the second round. Though most are looking at winning their groups at the moment.
    Argentina's route to the Semis/Final looks very accommodating...at least in theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Germany would still finish top though, importantly, so they may well be happy enough to play it safe with a point.
    Yep, certainly it's an advantage that Germany only need a draw.

    But then if half the Yankee squad are German, it makes things a lot more interesting. You never know. Both sides would presumably rather face Algeria/Russia than Belgium too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Nice work. Have you got the names handy or where'd you get the info? Did you just scan through Wiki? I was thinking Bosnia might have had a couple. I think it's actually five German players the US have. Definitely more than three anyway.

    Just found this piece, which claims that there are 25 France-born players playing for countries other than France at the World Cup with 14 from Germany playing for countries other than Germany: http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers...s-and-migrants

    I assume they've double-checked the figures. It also explains how Rio Mavuba was "born at sea".
    This was only one found that listed all squads with place of birth.

    http://www.footballsquads.co.uk/nati...cup/wc2014.htm

    Wouldn't trust it 100%, a more official list for Ghana suggested three players. Was more educated guesses, as don't list place, country for players not born in that particular country.

    Ratikic sp?? And Greek bloke sounded vaguely Germanic places, rest was fairly sure of.

    On mavuba, am I right in thinking he could have played for any country? Effectively whereever the ship stopped that was willing to take them in?

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    Well he claimed asylum so he ended up being French.

    Isn't it in most cases that the flag of the ship you are born on is the country of birth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A N Mouse View Post
    This was only one found that listed all squads with place of birth.

    http://www.footballsquads.co.uk/nati...cup/wc2014.htm

    Wouldn't trust it 100%, a more official list for Ghana suggested three players. Was more educated guesses, as don't list place, country for players not born in that particular country.

    Ratikic sp?? And Greek bloke sounded vaguely Germanic places, rest was fairly sure of.

    On mavuba, am I right in thinking he could have played for any country? Effectively whereever the ship stopped that was willing to take them in?
    Cheers, I'll have a closer look at the lists tomorrow when I get a bit of time.

    Rakitic was born in Switzerland and actually played for them at youth level. His decision to switch to Croatia caused a bit of controversy in Switzerland with far-right groups threatening his family at the time: http://www.nacional.hr/en/clanak/371...in-switzerland

    Assuming that the theoretical state in which Mavuba would have arrived would have been prepared to offer citizenship to a stateless individual (I don't know if states offer such universally, but I think it's a fairly common feature of the nationality legislation of most Western states anyway), then, technically, aye, he would have been eligible to play football for that country's football team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Please God give me an alternative to Mark Lawrenson.
    Indeed.

    The guy is there, watching the world cup finals being paid to summarise one of the most entertaining sets of games in my lifetime & he carries on like that. I wouldn't like to hear him going on if he came back to his car broken into in a downpour after a dentist appointment if he can be that miserable watching football. Moron.

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    Anyway last game permutations...stolen from elsewhere.

    Group A:

    Brazil 4 +2
    Mexico 4 +1
    Croatia 3 +2
    Cameroon 0 -5

    Final fixtures: Mexico v Croatia, Brazil v Cameroon

    MEXICO WIN, BRAZIL WIN: Mexico and Brazil qualify. If Mexico's winning margin is 2 or more higher than Brazil's, Mexico win the group. If Brazil's winning margin is the same as or higher than Mexico's, Brazil win the group. If Mexico's winning margin is 1 higher than Brazil's, it comes down to goals scored. (Mexico currently have 1, Brazil 3.)

    MEXICO WIN, BRAZIL DRAW OR LOSE: Mexico winners, Brazil runners-up.

    MEXICO DRAW, BRAZIL WIN OR DRAW: Brazil winners, Mexico runners-up.

    MEXICO DRAW, BRAZIL LOSE: Mexico winners, Croatia runners-up.

    MEXICO LOSE, BRAZIL WIN: Brazil winners, Croatia runners-up.

    MEXICO LOSE, BRAZIL DRAW: Croatia winners, Brazil runners-up.

    MEXICO LOSE, BRAZIL LOSE: Croatia winners. If Cameroon's winning margin is 2 or more higher than Croatia's, Mexico are runners-up. If Croatia's winning margin is the same as or higher than Cameroons's, Brazil are runners-up. If Cameroon's winning margin is 1 higher than Croatia's, it comes down to goals scored. (Mexico currently have 1, Brazil 3.)
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    Group B a lot more straightforward

    Netherlands 6 +5
    Chile 6 +4
    Australia 0 -3
    Spain 0 -6

    Final fixtures: Netherlands v Chile, Australia v Spain

    NETHERLANDS WIN OR DRAW: Netherlands winners, Chile runners-up.

    NETHERLANDS LOSE: Chile winners, Netherlands runners-up.

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    Lots of changes in the Spain team, if livescore is correct (and it was talking nonsense with the Ireland end-of-season friendly line-ups)

    Pepe Reina
    Raul Albiol
    Sergio Ramos
    Juanfran
    Jordi Alba
    Koke
    Cesc Fabregas
    Juan Mata
    Santi Cazorla
    Sergio Busquets
    Diego Costa

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    Just had a quick look during my lunch-break and found the following players who were born in Germany but are representing other countries.

    Cameroon: Maxim Choupo-Moting and Joel Matip.
    Greece: José Holebas.
    Ghana: Kevin-Prince Boateng.
    Bosnia-Herzegovina: Muhamed Bešić, Sead Kolašinac and Zvjezdan Misimović.
    Iran: Daniel Davari.

    That's 8 and there are about four or five in the US squad too, so we're still missing one or two if there are 14 in total. I'll have another look after work. I will find them!

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    I think we can say football has come home to Brazil, brilliant atmosphere at most games, just made for World Cup, plus extra fanatical support for teams playing Argentina.

    That was a big game by USA, they have the left the old cliches far behind and finally stand alongside technically proficient, tactically sound, leading football nations, though I cant't help thinking that no matter how good they looked, Donavon would have made the situation better.

    This evening ITV (and probably rte) are going with Brazil Cam game, the game I want to watch is Mexico v Croatia.

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    I think ITV4 has Mexico v Croatia.

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    It has and is on their website plus loads of streams...

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    I have my yahoo set to Yahoo USA the amount of drivel they have about the world cup is funny. They really havent a clue about soccerball

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    They really havent a clue about soccerball
    A bit like Britain and Ireland then, really.

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