Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Das wagen phones ist ein nuisance phone.
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American football culture all seems very artificial. All footballing cultures obviously have to find their roots and influences somewhere, but there's just something about the American one that seems really manufactured. It probably doesn't help that their clubs are franchises. I thought this example of cultural appropriation by an American supporters' club was amusing: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27668750
You might enjoy this: http://northernladsclub.wordpress.co...tball-culture/
It was written by a pretty interesting guy I happened to meet and converse with after a night out a while back on the nature of football support amongst other things.
Yeah, but explain Wanderley Luxemburgo.
It's the way they talk about the game that's weirdest. Even the American emphasis on stats that just sounds wrong here.
Yes, but the 'top' teams are generally much better, at least in theory, and there's far far more travelling involved. Though can understand your logic.
Also if this was the case, why don't Turkey and some of the former Russian republics which are actually in Asia join them...and even in theory, er, Israel....
Israel can't really play in Asia given the amount of teams that refuse to play them (that's why they left in the place)
Most of the Russian republics that are actually in Asia feel European, given they were part of a European country for decades (certainly pretty much their entire footballing existence). Ditto Turkey, I think.
Obviously it helps that the money in UEFA is far, far more.
You are being ironic?
Loads of relatively recent arrivals in S.America, also of Italian, Portuguese and Spanish descent, the latter two based on colonial ties and a common language.
Not to forget the Japanese in Peru and Brazil...plus the Welsh in Patagonia!!!
He was a bit of a wagen.
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Agreed, but far far harder for them to qualify for Finals too...
Besides Israel, Turkey's is more political as they always wanted join NATO(!) and the EU. Personally, in both cases along with UEFA feel there should be more rigid geographic constraints...though not just them.
Nothing artificial about that goal.
Not a bad aul finish there.
Cracker there for the US, fully deserved!
And decent goal from the Welsh American there...
Another German comes to the rescue for the US.
There's more money in UEFA, even if it might be a bit tougher to qualify. Joining the Asian confederation was more lucrative for Australia than remaining in Oceania.
That's part of it certainly. But they also have an awful bandwagon culture, that mixes terribly with expectation of instant success.
I have an American friend who went off on a mad rant during the Olympics about how dressage wasn't a "real" sport and had no place in the Games. He suggested replacing it with horseback lasso competitions. I wanted to point out he was suggesting replacing a sport American never won anything in with a sport they would win everything in, but couldn't psyche myself for the argument. And lo and behold, you get ****e like this during the World Cup: http://time.com/2864483/world-cup-20...razil-america/
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The rigidity of the confederations is pretty absolute unless the odd team manages to move.
Israel, Australia, Suriname and Guyana are the only ones I can think of that don't play in their continental confederations but the reasoning behind that is pretty sound and obvious for al of them.
My feed is behind the forum so I waited and waited... worth the wait.
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Not just about the international team of course. More money for Galatasaray, Fenerbache, et al playing Champions' League rather than the Asian equivalent.
I think the main reason Australia (re) joined Asia was because the competition in Oceania was basically worthless.
On this group - what odds Germany beat the US and Ghana get a result off Portugal to go through?
A bit tougher? Hmm.
Though agree leaving Oceania would be an upwards move financially.
USA playing a great second half. Are they playing a regular 442, with Jones and Bradley? They may be lacking something in finesse but nothing in athleticism.
Edit: nah, Bekerman looks to be deep lying.
Last edited by Stuttgart88; 22/06/2014 at 11:35 PM.
Three in both Bosnia Herzegovina and USA.
Two in Cameroon and Ghana
One in Iran. Probably also one a piece in Greece and Croatia
Too difficult to call Dutch and Swiss based only on place names. Schneiderlin is French side of border. I may have missed some.
One of the French players is listed as born at sea. How would that work?
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