Collins sacked.

**Redzer** · 13/05/2014, 9:42 AM

Originally Posted by Nesta99

How good is his son, is he worthy of a place in an LoI side? - never saw him play.

Every bit as good as Jake Dykes is, with us.

Its not just Roddy who practice's nepotism.

**outspoken** · 13/05/2014, 10:49 AM

There was a lot of bad blood left over from when Roddy tried to take over down here last time with the club giving one version and roddy giving another in the press (After some of his comments in Derry I think we all know who to believe) so there's no way I can ever see Jim Hanley or anyone at Longford Town FC ever allowing Roddy Collins near this football club and rightfully so.

**brendy_éire** · 13/05/2014, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Acer

what are the expectations in Derry? It's been 17 years since they won the league. Did they expect to challenge with Roddy in charge? Seems a hasty sacking but maybe the performances were just so bad that there was no prospect of improvement in the future.

We expected to qualify for Europe. Roddy stated pre-season that it would be a "disaster" if he didn't win the league, but we all thought that was being overly optimistic.
We have the makings of a very good squad, and expected Roddy (or any manager, for that matter) to bring in a few heads to make us challengers.
Didn't happen and nothing hasty about getting rid of him. It was his style or play more than anything that sank him. It was truly dreadful to watch. Worse than the 2003 season we when nearly got relegated, IMO. Even if we'd have won matches with that style of play, I still think there'd have been plenty calling for his head.

**Lim till i die** · 13/05/2014, 12:29 PM

Our game with Derry in the Brandywell earlier in the season was arguably the worst i've ever seen (bear in mind im a Limerick fan going on 20 years) it was just surreal up there, only about 600 people at it, near total silence and Derry were dull, dull, DULL. Not what id come to expect from Derry at all at all.

Having said all that I thought he'd be safe to the window at least as he was cute enough to gut the squad and bring in his own.

Could genuinely see Roddy washing up at Bohs in the not too distant future.

**avvenalaf** · 13/05/2014, 12:35 PM

You just pray he doesn't turn up at Limerick. Hearing that Taylor is going to Tranmere.

**Lim till i die** · 13/05/2014, 12:41 PM

Roddy as boss with Pat Dolan as director of football.

Get the crowds flocking to Thomond Park, might even have to look at renting the Gaelic Grounds for the bigger games.

**NeverFeltBetter** · 13/05/2014, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by avvenalaf

You just pray he doesn't turn up at Limerick. Hearing that Taylor is going to Tranmere.

I'm not sure what he's done to deserve that position.

**brendy_éire** · 13/05/2014, 1:02 PM

Great statement by Decky Devine:
http://derrynow.com/article/2204

Derry Journal reporting that Peter Hutton is to be offered the job this evening with his choice of assistant. Also, that's there’s nothing left in our player budget for this season.

**Nesta99** · 13/05/2014, 1:20 PM

Farrenso? ok Deco Devineo

**Ezeikial** · 13/05/2014, 5:16 PM

Devine demonstrated how grounded he is - in stark contrast to the recently departed astronaut.

Pizza may be well liked, but his management track record is hardly inspiring. Do Derry folk see him as the right man for the job?

**Longfordian** · 13/05/2014, 5:36 PM

Originally Posted by Redzer

Every bit as good as Jake Dykes is, with us.

Its not just Roddy who practice's nepotism.

I'm off to look up the age gap between TC and Peter Hynes.

Hmm, 14 years. Maybe he's his nephew.

**Jofspring** · 13/05/2014, 6:07 PM

Pat Scully had his son with our under 19's, played him in a munster senior cup game against Waterford and had him as a sub for us on a number of occasions ahead of far superior senior players.

**Charlie Darwin** · 13/05/2014, 6:23 PM

You lot are being very harsh on Roddy. At least he didn't try and play his brother.

**Aaron** · 13/05/2014, 6:52 PM

Originally Posted by Nesta99

I think it was the spoofing that lost him the job this early, especially the 'built on sand' stuff. If he had kept his gob shut and cut out the ridiculous diversion attempts like the Pat Hoban comments he might have lasted a few more weeks. Dont know how he thought the Derry support wouldnt see through his bull straight away. How good is his son, is he worthy of a place in an LoI side? - never saw him play.

I'll be honest Roddy Jr got a sore touch because of who he was, i'd like to see him given a chance with his da away because it seemed he was scared ****less of Collins Sr. From what I hear though he is free to leave along with JP MCGovern and Mark Stewart

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Devine demonstrated how grounded he is - in stark contrast to the recently departed astronaut.

Pizza may be well liked, but his management track record is hardly inspiring. Do Derry folk see him as the right man for the job?

Derry fans are generally a hard bunch to please, but if we see a team giving effort, trying to play football the right way and a manager who doesnt talk ****e in public then we're always for giving people a fair crack of the whip.

Decky Devine was let go because the crowds were falling away and a rotten run after our European game cost him his job. Pizza may not have a great track record with Harps, but ye cant polish a ****, simple as.

He is currently doing his pro-license, held the position before and steadied the ship. He knows what the fans expect, and will have the respect of the dressing room.

I personally want Kenny Shiels, but Pizza is the next option to at least the end of the season if we cant get Shiels

**Nesta99** · 13/05/2014, 7:38 PM

Yeah thats what I was wondering - at what level could he play at if he wasnt tainted by the Collins snr, are people going to vilify him cause of his dad. As for Derry fans being hard to please you have described all LoI there. Claiming it would be a disaster not to win the league (as long as he was being serious) in a first season with a bunch of youngsters with a club built on sand well his P45 should have been handed over then and there as there is obnoxious self belief(delusion) and then there is R Collins. The board would have to have been thinking 'what the f*ck have we done'?!

**Nesta99** · 13/05/2014, 7:48 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

You lot are being very harsh on Roddy. At least he didn't try and play his brother.

Or have Tony Quinn on the bench doing this hypno psyching opponents

**Darklordsbane** · 13/05/2014, 9:02 PM

I can't say I blame Roddy playing his son, if any of us were managers and had a son who could play we would probably all give him a chance, I only saw him play a couple of time for Athlone wasn't as bad as some of the players I've seen in the 1st div he might have been on very low wages as well

**bluewhitearmy** · 13/05/2014, 9:23 PM

Originally Posted by Darklordsbane

I can't say I blame Roddy playing his son, if any of us were managers and had a son who could play we would probably all give him a chance, I only saw him play a couple of time for Athlone wasn't as bad as some of the players I've seen in the 1st div he might have been on very low wages as well

How does this apply to Roddy Jr then?

**Nesta99** · 13/05/2014, 10:38 PM

You could only play your son if he was substantially better than others available due to the likely backlash. Alex Ferguson was quick enough to off-load his son when there were better options available at Old Trafford. Still havent got an unbiased assessment of Junior - maybe there isnt one. Like if he signed for say Athlone would there be one big groan?

**nigel-harps1954** · 13/05/2014, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Nesta99

You could only play your son if he was substantially better than others available due to the likely backlash. Alex Ferguson was quick enough to off-load his son when there were better options available at Old Trafford. Still havent got an unbiased assessment of Junior - maybe there isnt one. Like if he signed for say Athlone would there be one big groan?

Being perfectly and totally honest, he looked the weak link in Athlones title winning side last year anytime we played them. He would have to have improved substantially to be anywhere close to resembling a Premier Division standard of player.