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    Quote Originally Posted by Keen2win View Post
    Anywhere streaming the Rovers-Derry game? I'm out of the country!
    You're missing nothing,its been very poor so far.Strange that shams have Finn,Mcphail,O'Connor,McGuinness on the bench?Bayly starting?The starting side looks weaker than what they had last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roversforever View Post
    You're missing nothing,its been very poor so far.Strange that shams have Finn,Mcphail,O'Connor,McGuinness on the bench?Bayly starting?The starting side looks weaker than what they had last season.
    Had the same thoughts myself. Rovers gone out with seemingly a weakened side. They're absolutely all over the place too. Very, very poor game.
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    Lots of talent on the shams squad but I wouldn't fancy Croly to get the.best out of them, very open league but there is more chance of Athlone finishing last than us top .

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    I wasn't impressed too much by either side today. Derry edged it, but arguably Rovers seemed more dangerous. The selections were interesting to say the least. Teams are going to get at Derry in the air I feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roversforever View Post
    Finn,Mcphail,O'Connor,McGuinness on the bench?Bayly starting?.
    Sheppard also on bench, very poor affair, how long will Croly last especially when Fenlon is hovering in the background?

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    I can understand what Derry did, to put young bodies, defensively minded going for the draw. And then keep the guns for second half, to play the counter if they were up, or to keep doing the same but lest time.
    But there is no reason for Croly to bench McPhail and McGuiness, I can understand that maybe Finn it's not in form yet and that he prefer McCabe and Waters on the wing... But Bayly for Mcfail???!!! Are we crazy? Cornwall for McGuiness???

    I don't understand it. In fact i thought when they signed those two that they were going to play in B team...

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    Did not get a chance to watch the game today on tv, but from following on twitter it seemed a poor standard of a match. This happens a lot with live games, especially at start of season. While it is early yet, it looks like it could be a very open league which I think along with the ultras/fans displays is one of the strong points of the loI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Briuk View Post
    I can understand what Derry did, to put young bodies, defensively minded going for the draw. And then keep the guns for second half, to play the counter if they were up, or to keep doing the same but lest time.
    But there is no reason for Croly to bench McPhail and McGuiness, I can understand that maybe Finn it's not in form yet and that he prefer McCabe and Waters on the wing... But Bayly for Mcfail???!!! Are we crazy? Cornwall for McGuiness???

    I don't understand it. In fact i thought when they signed those two that they were going to play in B team...
    Finn and Sheppard are still struggling for fitness and McPhail has had a few issues too. Cornwall didn't play instead of McGuinness, O'Connor did and he justified his selection until his injury.

    That was an appalling game and a really poor advert for the league. RTE screwed up by not showing the champions on the first week. The league should have begun last Friday when there was no underage 6 nations on, Friday night on TV. As for the match, Rovers looked clueless. Croly has gone from one extreme to the other: last season was all about passing the ball around midfield for 90 minutes and getting nowhere near the goal, this year it's all about hoofing it up as quick as possible. Derry were utterly dominant in the air and we just kept whacking it at them expecting something to change. It's a shame because whichever Brennan we signed this time looks a real player - him, Finn and McPhail could be a very good unit.

    Derry looked the hungrier side throughout. They pressed well and played the game in the part of the pitch where Roddy likes to see it played, i.e. 40 yards above it. They looked fairly limited throughout but they're well-drilled and have plenty of pace on the counter. Apart from a couple of defensive errors, Rovers never looked like creating any meaningful chances against them, and they shut down the midfield completely. I know it's only the first day, but you'd hope for the league's sake that both teams find a bit more rhythm over the coming weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by micls View Post
    I never understand why people overestimate the crowds so much and refuse to believe the official figures. There is no benefit at all to the club to lie about the attendance, in fact the opposite is true.
    There's a very obvious benefit to clubs underestimating crowds.

    Not saying Cork did it but it goes on.

    Of course some clubs go the other way and overestimate too, depends on whos running the show and what way they want to run it really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    That was an appalling game and a really poor advert for the league
    Only LOI fans were watching it. Any floating football fans were watching Man City/Wigan.

    ****e game. They happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by disgruntled View Post

    You must be new to watching Pats so ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Finn and Sheppard are still struggling for fitness and McPhail has had a few issues too. Cornwall didn't play instead of McGuinness, O'Connor did and he justified his selection until his injury.

    That was an appalling game and a really poor advert for the league. RTE screwed up by not showing the champions on the first week. The league should have begun last Friday when there was no underage 6 nations on, Friday night on TV. As for the match, Rovers looked clueless. Croly has gone from one extreme to the other: last season was all about passing the ball around midfield for 90 minutes and getting nowhere near the goal, this year it's all about hoofing it up as quick as possible. Derry were utterly dominant in the air and we just kept whacking it at them expecting something to change. It's a shame because whichever Brennan we signed this time looks a real player - him, Finn and McPhail could be a very good unit.

    Derry looked the hungrier side throughout. They pressed well and played the game in the part of the pitch where Roddy likes to see it played, i.e. 40 yards above it. They looked fairly limited throughout but they're well-drilled and have plenty of pace on the counter. Apart from a couple of defensive errors, Rovers never looked like creating any meaningful chances against them, and they shut down the midfield completely. I know it's only the first day, but you'd hope for the league's sake that both teams find a bit more rhythm over the coming weeks.
    Pfft. I thought the first half was very poor but that it improved a bit in the second half. We looked very vulnerable defensively in the first few minutes but improved as the game went on. It was disappointing to concede the goal but it was coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lim till i die View Post
    There's a very obvious benefit to clubs underestimating crowds.
    What?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    McPhail has had a few issues too.
    That beard, for one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    RTE screwed up by not showing the champions on the first week.
    Judging by the commentary, I reckon they think Shamrock Rovers are champs, and have been every year since independence: "Historic victory looming for Derry." "That equaliser has spared Croly's blushes." etc WTVeryF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by micls View Post
    What?!
    If a club was minded to cook the books and hide a certain amount of income in order to pay players under the table or whatever, then under-declaring crowds could be helpful. Since match tickets are not subject to VAT the incentive is lessened, but not gone. Clubs in the UK are liable to VAT, so the incentive there is bigger again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gormacha View Post
    Judging by the commentary, I reckon they think Shamrock Rovers are champs, and have been every year since independence: "Historic victory looming for Derry." "That equaliser has spared Croly's blushes." etc WTVeryF?
    Commentary was shocking altogether. Stephen Alkin is probably the worst commentator in the history of football commentary. Rico is a disaster too. Some of the cringe they were coming out with was awful. Poor miscued shots trickling wide receiving "OOH, that was agonisingly close".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Briuk View Post
    I can understand what Derry did, to put young bodies, defensively minded going for the draw. And then keep the guns for second half, to play the counter if they were up, or to keep doing the same but lest time.
    But there is no reason for Croly to bench McPhail and McGuiness, I can understand that maybe Finn it's not in form yet and that he prefer McCabe and Waters on the wing... But Bayly for Mcfail???!!! Are we crazy? Cornwall for McGuiness???

    I don't understand it. In fact i thought when they signed those two that they were going to play in B team...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Only LOI fans were watching it. Any floating football fans were watching Man City/Wigan.

    ****e game. They happen.
    That was only on pay per view I thought?

    Incidentally, I saw Paul Osam after the match, decked out in full Rovers regalia, along with his son. I always knew he was a Hoop At Heart.

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    I thought the programme was a bit disjointed. At the start it jumped between LOI and the ROI team. Hopefully as it progresses it will have more structure to it.

    Had to laugh when Peter Collins asked Richie Saddler about Sligo Rovers and Saddler started talking about unrest in Shams' dressing room.

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