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    Plus there's no way now Robbie could cut it now in the EPL on a regular basis, the odd cameo fair enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GypsyBlackCat View Post
    I disagree with that last sentence. Fletcher didn't play that much last season through injury. Let's face facts, at 31 Doyle is finished as top class striker. On paper there isn't much between Ireland and Scotland but the Scots have an edge about them. We don't.
    He played 27 times last season, which is plenty. A striker with a 1 in 9 record isn't to be feared.

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    Hmm, Fletcher & Naismith both scored at the weekend as mentioned before. Wouldn't be too smug, especially as pretty little chance of Kevin Doyle doing likewise...

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    Naismith's a very good player. Fletcher's alright. Naismith is a type of player we don't have, a very intelligent player between the lines who gets his share of goals. Fletcher is just a bit of a mystery - he doesn't score many goals, doesn't do any real work, doesn't keep defenders occupied with his movement. But, sure, a goal every nine games. We have nobody who can compete with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    He played 27 times last season, which is plenty. A striker with a 1 in 9 record isn't to be feared.
    One bad in which he didn't start many games. To say he's like Kevin Doyle is madness!


    Steven Fletcher
    2009/10 - Burnley 38/12
    2010/11 - Wolves 34/12
    2011/12 - Wolves 34/12
    2012/13 - Sunderland 30/11
    2013/14 - Sunderland 26/3

    Kevin Doyle
    2009/10 - Wolves 37/9
    2010/11 - Wolves 31/8
    2011/12 - Wolves 36/4
    2012/13 - Wolves 44/9 (Champioship)
    2013/14 - Wolves 25/3 (League One)
    2013/14 - QPR 13/2 (Championship)

    Shane Long
    2009/10 - Reading 36/9 (Championship)
    2010/11 - Reading 52/25 (Championship)
    2011/12 - West Brom 33/8
    2012/13 - West Brom 37/11
    2013/14 - West Brom 17/3
    2013/14 - Hull City 15/4

    So last season Long got 7 goals in 32 games. Which about the same as Fletcher. This season Fletcher has 5/2 were as Long is 8/0 in a better team.

    I'm not say we should fear Fletcher. But along with Naismith they look kile hitting a grove. Where as our strikers haven't scored many. Not that's a worry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GypsyBlackCat View Post
    One bad in which he didn't start many games. To say he's like Kevin Doyle is madness!


    Steven Fletcher
    2009/10 - Burnley 38/12
    2010/11 - Wolves 34/12
    2011/12 - Wolves 34/12
    2012/13 - Sunderland 30/11
    2013/14 - Sunderland 26/3

    Kevin Doyle
    2009/10 - Wolves 37/9
    2010/11 - Wolves 31/8
    2011/12 - Wolves 36/4
    2012/13 - Wolves 44/9 (Champioship)
    2013/14 - Wolves 25/3 (League One)
    2013/14 - QPR 13/2 (Championship)

    Shane Long
    2009/10 - Reading 36/9 (Championship)
    2010/11 - Reading 52/25 (Championship)
    2011/12 - West Brom 33/8
    2012/13 - West Brom 37/11
    2013/14 - West Brom 17/3
    2013/14 - Hull City 15/4

    So last season Long got 7 goals in 32 games. Which about the same as Fletcher. This season Fletcher has 5/2 were as Long is 8/0 in a better team.

    I'm not say we should fear Fletcher. But along with Naismith they look kile hitting a grove. Where as our strikers haven't scored many. Not that's a worry.
    Well my point is actually that he's not Kevin Doyle. Unlike Doyle, he scores the odd goal, but outside of finishing he doesn't do an awful lot to help his team or create anything.

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    On form, Fletcher's a good player. Strong, can link up play well and has a surprisingly deft touch. But he appears to be streaky as get out, not to mention more than a bit temperamental.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Well my point is actually that he's not Kevin Doyle. Unlike Doyle, he scores the odd goal, but outside of finishing he doesn't do an awful lot to help his team or create anything.
    Ourselves and Scotland are well balanced. My problem is the fact that they can call upon Rhodes, Flecther and Stevie May along with Naismith. We don't have the choice. In another way I wouldn't swap defensive option with Scotland. Well, maybe Ward!

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    Stevie May! Stevie harder to miss than score May? For the love of God, if you're going to use an example of belittling our talent pool to those of the Scots, keep it realistic.

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    I had never heard of May so can't really comment on his ability. I see he has only played a handful of games at Championship level, having been prolific in Scotland. Surely someone like Chris Martin is higher up in the pecking order, as he has been consistently scoring goals at that level for eighteen months or more.
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    Özil is an injury doubt for next Tuesday: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/inter...undergo-tests/

    Quote Originally Posted by RTÉ
    Mesut Ozil is a serious doubt for Germany’s upcoming clash with Republic of Ireland after the German Football Association announced the midfielder will undergo tests on a knee injury in Munich.

    The 25-year-old has not been able to train with the national team and will be doubtful for their Euro 2016 qualifiers against Poland on Saturday and the Republic of Ireland next Tuesday.

    Ozil played the full 90 minutes of Arsenal's 2-0 defeat to Chelsea in the Premier League on Sunday, but reported for international duty with the complaint, according to the DFB.

    The governing body said on its official website: "The Arsenal player had come with complaints in the left knee when he met up with the German team in Frankfurt and on Wednesday morning, he travelled to Munich to undergo an MRI examination."

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    I heard Draxler is a doubt too, flu.

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    Ok, so Germany 'reserves' then, clearly they think they won't have to be at full strength. Sadly we're not or it might have been interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Ok, so Germany 'reserves' then, clearly they think they won't have to be at full strength.
    They're injured or ill. It's not like the Germans are thinking of resting players. They have to play Poland first which is no gimme, especially with the local derby aspect. Those players will miss Poland before they miss us.

    Still, it's encouraging to know you think our first XI might get a result from their reserves. That's clear progress!

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    Not really. And they might struggle in one game, but not both. The Polska game more so as it's away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Özil is an injury doubt for next Tuesday: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/inter...undergo-tests/
    confirmed out for 10 to 12 weeks it appears

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Not really. And they might struggle in one game, but not both. The Polska game more so as it's away.
    Yeah, rather than being happy that they have so many out I'm feeling it's much more of an advantage for Poland than it is for us.

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    Thats what i think too, unless of course schrule and mueller get red cards against Poland but after they have gone 2 - 0 up so they will hold onto win.

    Its definitely more of an advantage to poland.
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    IDK. They have a few top class players like Schurrle and Gotze but as many are missing for some reason. Players like Schurrle and Gotze have the benefit of playing with 10 world class teammates every week but hopefully with the amount of retirements/injuries in the German squad they won't look as impressive playing with players who haven't settled in/aren't world class/aren't first choice.

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    Emmet Malone in Today's Irish Times writes about German football's careful planning.

    Inside German Football: Vorsprung durch technique - Germany’s formula for success


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