Think its pretty obvious the 19s are being shelved for another year. The last senior manager to use so many youth players to suppliment his first team was pat scully. Its not looking good for this season ahead
I wouldn't go that far, I'm fairly optimistic with the squad relatively the same and a youthful spine throughout, but surely the 19s should have been a priority today. Travelling to Dundalk with 12 players is making a mockery of it.Originally Posted by gael353
Really bad form.
Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).
If you took the under 19s out of the senior team we would have travelled to Longford with 11 players and no keeper. Senior team comes first.
I agree during the season. But it's not like we didn't know about any of this or it was too late to cancel it because we only found out that there is a really small squad. My point is, the friendly was meaningless, the 19s should have been the priority.
How could any manager work like that when you're bringing young lads so far and then to have the chance taken away from you.
So we cancel the firendly and disrupt preparations for the season? We have only had 4 friendlies as it is that isn't an ideal way to be getting ready for the season. It wasn't some friendly for the sake of it or for no reason it is to get ready for the season that starts in 2 weeks time.
The play offs are meaningless as well considering even if we win them we more then likely wouldn't be allowed up.
You said it yourself that you thought the lads would be taking it very easy before the trip so they don't get injured. If player numbers are tight then, doesn't it defeat the purpose of taking so many 19s up and writing off the playoffs.
Also, why wouldn't we be allowed up if we did win them?
I did but I never said it would be the right thing to do. We haven't had enough friendlies to properly gel as it is would be madness to cancel one. Other people might have a different opinion and no offence to anyone involved with the 19s but I would imagine 3 points against Bray the opening game of the season would be a priority over anything the 19s do and Longford was preparation for that.
The play-offs have hardly been written off they have another 5 games to play.
They have no ground for that would reach the standards needed for the top league of the 19s im told.
13 players today. No Whitehead, Hanlon, Costelloe or Murphy. Impossible to tell me those playoffs haven't been wrote off. If Tommy Barrett gets that team promoted he should be made a permanent fixture there.
Beaten 3-2. Not happy to see U-19 setup treated this way.
Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).
I'd be a bit more understanding this week with the amount of injuries we have and the season only a week away.
The 19s are there to provide players to the senior team that is the main aim so what is the problem.
So the club sack Declan Farmer because of not winning the league and then the 19s turn out with the bare 12/13 players..where is the logic in sacking farmer..I no the first team will always come first but what about the 19s players that worked there balls off to get into that position and the club to take it away from them..The first team is weaker then last year in my opinion and to be depending on u19s to fill the squad could end up costing limerick at the end of the year..I hope I'm wrong..limerick brought in 2 great signs but left it at that really which is worrying
That's the problem. Players want success, it's not good for long term development doing this type of thing. Could you imagine how disheartened you'd be if you played all season and then because you weren't in the top 4 or 5 in the team you were going to play your promotion playoffs with 12/ 13 players.
it looks unprofessional, and it will definitely have a knock on effect to the first team at some point.
Who told you that is why he was sacked?
It would have had an effect this week if the players weren't called up considering they will probably all be needed Friday.
The players that have been mentioned for example:
Whitehead-One of only 3 fit centre backs in the senior squad at the minute.
Hanlon- One of two sub strikers available at the minute and the main back up going by pre-season.
Costelloe-Dont think he has played a single game for the 19s this season.
Murphy- Could either be starting left back or back up to Costelloe Friday if Williams injury doesn't clear up in time.
So its not like they were taken for no reason all of these lads are needed Friday and that is what matters. Maybe the club knows certain things that ye don't?
Having to rely on teenagers as one of only 3 fit centre backs in the senior squad at the minute and one of two sub strikers available at the minute going into the start of the season, as well as taking one GK on a preseason tour is ridiculous planning in anyone's language. Whatever the club 'knows that you don't' it's obviously not good enough and the backlash is going to be felt in attendances. BWA asked where we're supposed to get our money from in a previous thread - that's where.
Ha?
Well what happened him so he hardly walked..I'm just pointing out problems that might arise over the season..having 6/7 under 19s as back up is not good enough and definitely not fair on them it's a huge step..As I said I hope I'm wrong but could be a long season and as the above comment it will affect attendances which is a major issue
I think most are expecting it to be a long tough season. The budget is down, the playing squad is down, we have injuries. The club can't afford to gamble on spending big wages on players if the crowds aren't there to support it. I'd prefer us to be stable than push it.
What are they supposed to do when people get injured? They dont have the money have 3 or 4 back ups for every position.
When I said the club might know something we don't i was referring to the 19s this is a thread about the under 19s after all.
So what can the club do then spend a load of money they dont have to get a big squad of top players so attendances will be up?? Attendances will be down anyway because the buzz of the first year up will be gone. We have a small budget therefore we have a small squad it really is that simple. I have seen people saying other places that we should be pushing for Europe and that we need to be up near the top 4 that is complete and utter nonsense tbh.
It will be a tough season we wont be challenging for anything but it is a hell of a lot better then where we were.
Who said anything about 3 or 4 backups, 1 would do. And they haven't even got that. I'll be at every home game anyway but, Duggan aside, the signing of players SO FAR has been disasterous.
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