DDSL vs SFAI

**fifa** · 24/02/2014, 1:00 PM

Originally Posted by jimhacker

Delaney didn't bother.

He got none other than the president of the FAI to respond with the usual threats of legal action - how dare these upstarts question the wisdom of the Abbotstown junta.

See today's Sunday Times for extracts.

Couldn't find anything in yesterday's Sunday times?

**Hitman** · 24/02/2014, 1:32 PM

Originally Posted by fifa

Couldn't find anything in yesterday's Sunday times?

**jimhacker** · 25/02/2014, 7:19 PM

Good piece in Star today. No scanner so can't put it up here.

This issue just isn't going away!

**fifa** · 25/02/2014, 7:40 PM

Anyone know a few good solicitors cause I think the way the fai are dealing with this it's the way it will end up,a lot of people are losing faith in the way the game is run here will lose these players to gaa and rugby directly from this shambles I think

**Ezeikial** · 02/03/2014, 4:28 PM

It's clear that at least one DDSL club believe that the SFAI 50km radius rule is not valid or not enforceable.

In the U-16 National Cup Round of 16 today St Kevins Boys emerged victorious over Ardee Celtic with a two goal contribution from a Dundalk based player.

Depending on how you measure it, the distance involved from Dundalk to Whitehall in Dublin is in the region of 75km-80km. St Kevins Boys would have been well aware that this players circumstances were known to their opponents, as Ardee Celtic play in the Dundalk league where said player has played his football up until last season.

Obviously St Kevins Boys did not seeing playing him as being any sort of a disqualification risk

**prince20** · 03/03/2014, 8:25 AM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

It's clear that at least one DDSL club believe that the SFAI 50km radius rule is not valid or not enforceable.

In the U-16 National Cup Round of 16 today St Kevins Boys emerged victorious over Ardee Celtic with a two goal contribution from a Dundalk based player.

Depending on how you measure it, the distance involved from Dundalk to Whitehall in Dublin is in the region of 75km-80km. St Kevins Boys would have been well aware that this players circumstances were known to their opponents, as Ardee Celtic play in the Dundalk league where said player has played his football up until last season.

Obviously St Kevins Boys did not seeing playing him as being any sort of a disqualification risk

Think the rule is the distance from the school where the player attends. Not sure if it has any relevance in this case though.

**Ezeikial** · 03/03/2014, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by prince20

Think the rule is the distance from the school where the player attends. Not sure if it has any relevance in this case though.

You are correct that the rule is based on distance from school to club - in this case the distance is in the region of 75km - 80km (certainly well in excess of 50km)

The point is that if it is the case that the SFAI rulebook specifies a maximum of 50km before a player is ineligible, St Kevins Boys were clearly unconcerned about adhering to this rule.

I can only speculate that this is based on a confidence that if they there was an objection lodged and the match awarded against them by the SFAI under their 50km rules, that they would be successful on appeal to the FAI who appear to have decided that 80km is the acceptable limit.

**fifa** · 03/03/2014, 10:18 AM

So does anyone know who is running schoolboys football in ireland at the moment seriously?

**dutchie** · 03/03/2014, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

It's clear that at least one DDSL club believe that the SFAI 50km radius rule is not valid or not enforceable.

In the U-16 National Cup Round of 16 today St Kevins Boys emerged victorious over Ardee Celtic with a two goal contribution from a Dundalk based player.

Depending on how you measure it, the distance involved from Dundalk to Whitehall in Dublin is in the region of 75km-80km. St Kevins Boys would have been well aware that this players circumstances were known to their opponents, as Ardee Celtic play in the Dundalk league where said player has played his football up until last season.

Why dont they object.Its the only way this rubbish bu ddsl teams will be sortede.

Obviously St Kevins Boys did not seeing playing him as being any sort of a disqualification risk

Why dont they just object.

**fifa** · 04/03/2014, 8:23 AM

I wonder will Delaney show up in cork tonight for the ireland u19 game

**Ezeikial** · 04/03/2014, 8:48 AM

Originally Posted by dutchie

Why dont they just object.

Perhaps they have or intend to lodge an objection.

But to answer your question about possible reasons not to object, here are some that spring to mind

Principle of football matches being decided on football pitches rather than in committee rooms
Poor use of club volunteers time and energy which can be better used within the club
Cost of appeal
Probability of any decision by SFAI being appealed to FAI
Reluctance to be embroiled in the soap opera politics that is the administration of schoolboy football in Ireland
Apathy

There are of course also benefits and reasons to appeal

In any case the original post was about how the DDSL club obviously see no/little risk in ignoring the 50km rule

**dutchie** · 04/03/2014, 11:15 PM

Well if my club loses to one of the dublin teams and we heard of a player outside the 49km rule we would object all the way to the steps.

**Ezeikial** · 05/03/2014, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by dutchie

Well if my club loses to one of the dublin teams and we heard of a player outside the 49km rule we would object all the way to the steps.

If your club is Co Limerick club, Herbertstown AFC you may well get your wish as they are drawn to play St Kevins Boys in the last eight.

Of course that is based on any appeal by Ardee Celtic being unsuccessful

**fifa** · 05/03/2014, 1:22 PM

Are ardee Celtic going to appeal

**schoolboygodno9** · 10/03/2014, 1:05 PM

http://www.corkschoolboysleague.ie/n...p?news_id=1071

**jimhacker** · 13/03/2014, 5:17 PM

Originally Posted by prince20

Think the rule is the distance from the school where the player attends. Not sure if it has any relevance in this case though.

No.

Mr Delaney was also kind enough to assist with the change of "school" to "residence".

Naturally, all the country players coveted by the DDSL clubs have uncles/grannies/cousins living in Dublin.

I see the same individual in today's Irish Times complaining about other people's "outrageous salaries".

Truly, this guy has no limits - his neck wouldn't be out of place in the weighing room at Cheltenham.

**fifa** · 18/03/2014, 1:35 PM

Fai should take a leaf out of this teams book (one of the cork teams to lose out in the sfai cup farce)http://t.co/TDWDTT6JrD

**fifa** · 23/05/2014, 10:04 AM

I see ddsl teams won all the sfai cups,handy when you can guarantee your best teams are in last 32! What a farce

**Ezeikial** · 25/05/2014, 8:51 AM

Originally Posted by fifa

I see ddsl teams won all the sfai cups,handy when you can guarantee your best teams are in last 32! What a farce

Maybe it is because each of the winning teams are the best in their respective age groups?

**Green** · 27/05/2014, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Maybe it is because each of the winning teams are the best in their respective age groups?

That probably is the case but when you are allowed to seed/break the rules....well look at the advantage you have then compared to the rest. It simply isn't democratic for want of a better word. You need to take in to account also the Cork teams pulled.

With a new head of the SFAI coming in hopefully things will be different because the current guy's tenure has been filled with controversy and that is not good.