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    Quote Originally Posted by Rory View Post
    What he means is to take any dispute away from the playing pitches. Don't let the kids be the ones to suffer in an adult's argument. And for once I have to agree with him.
    And if this happens again next year? I've only been observing this debate up to know, but I have to say that this kind of blatant rule-breaking, in favour of one specific region, is not something that should be tolerated. What kind of terrible lesson is that for the children involved. If the higher authority breaks the rules, roll over?
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    SFAI row deepens as Cork clubs pull out

    JOHN FALLON – 08 FEBRUARY 2014
    CORK'S schoolboy clubs have stood firm in their withdrawal from the SFAI national cup competition despite a late intervention by FAI chief executive John Delaney...............

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-29990841.html



    Among the embarrassing and shameful aspects to emerge from this article is that John Delaney appears to recognise that the DDSL broke the rules of the competition. The FAI have backed this stance in their actions since.
    That's because the Cork clubs remain steadfast in their view that Rule 2 (c) was breached by the DDSL.
    The rule reads: "All teams from all regions will be included in the first-round draw, no seeding of teams shall be allowed."
    Delaney admitted on Wednesday that the FAI had allowed the DDSL carry out a draw using "partial seeding".
    I say "appears" because in the FAI / JD parallel universe a partial breach of regulations might be ok if it suits them.

    Hang your heads in shame FAI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rory View Post
    What he means is to take any dispute away from the playing pitches. Don't let the kids be the ones to suffer in an adult's argument. And for once I have to agree with him.
    That's all fine and well if the playing field is level. But compare this to Everest, DDSL start halfways up due to seeded draw and everyone else is at the bottom. Rules were broken. Draw is a farce. End of story. This is a huge child welfare issue created by SFAI/DDSL/FAI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-29990841.html



    Among the embarrassing and shameful aspects to emerge from this article is that John Delaney appears to recognise that the DDSL broke the rules of the competition. The FAI have backed this stance in their actions since.


    I say "appears" because in the FAI / JD parallel universe a partial breach of regulations might be ok if it suits them.

    Hang your heads in shame FAI
    Many clubs have suffered along the way for not properly observing rules and regulations. Here the clubs who have observed rules and regulations, went with the official original draw for the cups and played their games when fixed by the various leagues are suffering.... At the behest of the FAI and their anxiety to include the one league who didn't observe rules and regulations.

    In this instance and in all of football, rules agree NOT meant to be broken.

    Finally, fair play to the Cork clubs and Schoolboy League - stand united!
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    This old world is rough, its just getting rougher"

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    Also balinasloe town who have also rejected this farce

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    I see there are mainly Cork people here defending the decision of adults in a adult's dispute where the kids once more take the punishment. I know what the FAI/SFAI/DDSL did was very wrong. Delany has already assured this will not happen again. Still the Cork Clubs are not happy and want to totally sabotage the cup. Well, very brave indeed lads. The teams that have pulled out should hang their heads in shame together with the FAI, who btw, has already admitted they were wrong....
    Hopefully common sense will prevail and none of the other leagues will pull out...
    Find another way to prove a point and fight the SFAI/FAI on this but let the kids play their well earned match in the last 32 and further....

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    Rory it's starting to look like you have a big problem with cork people for some reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rory View Post
    I see there are mainly Cork people here defending the decision of adults in a adult's dispute where the kids once more take the punishment. I know what the FAI/SFAI/DDSL did was very wrong. Delany has already assured this will not happen again. Still the Cork Clubs are not happy and want to totally sabotage the cup. Well, very brave indeed lads. The teams that have pulled out should hang their heads in shame together with the FAI, who btw, has already admitted they were wrong....
    Hopefully common sense will prevail and none of the other leagues will pull out...
    Find another way to prove a point and fight the SFAI/FAI on this but let the kids play their well earned match in the last 32 and further....
    I'm sure the Cork clubs involved are well aware of the depth of the decision they've been forced into. These are all clubs who have worked tirelessly for their schoolboy players.
    Maybe fed up with "unusual" interpretations of rules.
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    This old world is rough, its just getting rougher"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rory View Post
    I see there are mainly Cork people here defending the decision of adults in a adult's dispute where the kids once more take the punishment. I know what the FAI/SFAI/DDSL did was very wrong. Delany has already assured this will not happen again. Still the Cork Clubs are not happy and want to totally sabotage the cup. Well, very brave indeed lads. The teams that have pulled out should hang their heads in shame together with the FAI, who btw, has already admitted they were wrong....
    Hopefully common sense will prevail and none of the other leagues will pull out...
    Find another way to prove a point and fight the SFAI/FAI on this but let the kids play their well earned match in the last 32 and further....
    Hold on. That's great. Delaney said were wrong, so suck it up, I'll ensure the rules are enforced next year but play away this year, how in the name of God is there any right in that? If he can admit they're wrong he can unwind his decisions and fix the mess. He was quick enough to act when the DDSL protested over something that wasn't wrong. The Cork clubs are protesting against something that IS wrong.

    Common sense would be to pull. You cannot put the kids into an unfair and unjust competition.

    When a team up the country loses to a DDSL club and appeals it because they broke the rules, don't come crying on here because you're encouraging it. This competition will be a complete farce and it should be. I hope the FAI learn a lesson from this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ball-hop View Post
    Many clubs have suffered along the way for not properly observing rules and regulations. Here the clubs who have observed rules and regulations, went with the official original draw for the cups and played their games when fixed by the various leagues are suffering.... At the behest of the FAI and their anxiety to include the one league who didn't observe rules and regulations.

    In this instance and in all of football, rules agree NOT meant to be broken.

    Finally, fair play to the Cork clubs and Schoolboy League - stand united!
    Only watched this from a distance in Engerland but reading dat Indo article today on web had me in shock.

    Aside from the points made here about the rule breaking, am I the only one to notice who one of the 'independent' observers was at the DDSL draw? The very draw against SFAI's own rules.

    It was Michael Cody. The only person in football I know with this same name was the bloke who was the rep for Cobh Ramblers back in the day. Not sure what his role is now but Id assume he was there to see the draw happen in compliance with the rules.

    That's bad enough but isn't one of the 11 clubs Springfield Ramblers? They were the juvenille section of Cobh that Stephen Ireland played for.

    So much for Cork togethernes in football!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf Honn View Post
    Only watched this from a distance in Engerland but reading dat Indo article today on web had me in shock.

    Aside from the points made here about the rule breaking, am I the only one to notice who one of the 'independent' observers was at the DDSL draw? The very draw against SFAI's own rules.

    It was Michael Cody. The only person in football I know with this same name was the bloke who was the rep for Cobh Ramblers back in the day. Not sure what his role is now but Id assume he was there to see the draw happen in compliance with the rules.

    That's bad enough but isn't one of the 11 clubs Springfield Ramblers? They were the juvenille section of Cobh that Stephen Ireland played for.

    So much for Cork togethernes in football!
    Money talks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fifa View Post
    Money talks!!
    500k to be exact plus the ddsl being the biggest league in the country remember we live in one of the corrupts countries in all aspects of life so nothing should suprise anyone regarding this delaney has admitted rule breaking but sweeping it under the carpet reminds me of the mike bassett scene

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    Quote Originally Posted by schoolboygodno9 View Post
    500k to be exact plus the ddsl being the biggest league in the country remember we live in one of the corrupts countries in all aspects of life so nothing should suprise anyone regarding this delaney has admitted rule breaking but sweeping it under the carpet reminds me of the mike bassett scene
    well said bud and mike bassett what a legend

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    http://punditarena.com/2014/02/08/sc...ateral-damage/

    This piece is excellent and has it all in one page.

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    Ya good article

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    The whole draw is a total farce,very hard on Cork but fair play to them for making a stand,Delaney has a lot to answer for and he might need the backing of schoolboy clubs someday,he knows where to go,a lot of games stil to be played at last 32 stage,when is the date for last 16.
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    It's impossible to know where the DDSL / FAI clubs are at the minute as there website is very poor. I have been trying to find up to date progress or results but it's all being kept shrouded in secrecy. At this rate it will be June before the last 32 matches are all played. Well done FAI. Another fine mess you've gotten us into.

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    Heard one of the Irish youth teams are playing in cork in a few weeks time, isn't john Delaney required to be at all home international games? Doubt he'll show up though!

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    I doubt if the DDSL will let John Delaney attend anything on their behalf in Cork (or Ballinasloe) ever again seeing as how ungrateful were after being allowed into the competition in the first place. The cheek of them to withdraw just because the rules were broken.

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