League cup 2014

**poster** · 05/08/2014, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by brendy_�ire

CCS in Longford, but that's never going to happen.

What's the capacity of CCS these days? Is the opposite end to the car park closed?

**Nah Nah Nah Nah** · 05/08/2014, 12:11 PM

When's the last time the League Cup final was held at a neutral venue? (and no comments about Tallaght not being owned by Shams....)

**Charlie Darwin** · 05/08/2014, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah

When's the last time the League Cup final was held at a neutral venue? (and no comments about Tallaght not being owned by Shams....)

I don't know if it ever has been. Certainly not in the last 20 years.

I don't really see the problem. Sure if you listen to some people Rovers are homeless beggars so it's a neutral venue for everyone.

**Dodge** · 05/08/2014, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah

When's the last time the League Cup final was held at a neutral venue? (and no comments about Tallaght not being owned by Shams....)

The first few were neutral ground (usually in Dublin but Bohs v Finn Harps in 1975/76 was played in Oriel). The final was 2 legs then for a period in the mid 80s and then home/away. Back to 2 legs in mid 90s until 2001/02. From 2003 has been back to a team at home

In the 11 finals since there's been 5 home wins and 6 away wins

**nigel-harps1954** · 05/08/2014, 12:50 PM

Personally, I think CCS in Longford is starting to slowly go the way of Tolka. Behind the nets opposite the car park is closed and in awful condition. The open nature of the ground means being exposed to the elements doesn't help the others end and section o side. Seats are worn and looking poor. The main stand is still fine though. Reckon with a bit of care, it'd run Turner Cross hard for finest ground in the league, but needs work certainly. Unfortunately, has the feel of an unfinished stadium.

**Charlie Darwin** · 05/08/2014, 12:56 PM

That's not fair, Nigel. The toilets at CCS might be stone age but they're not Tolka-level.

**dundalkfc10** · 05/08/2014, 1:25 PM

Was up getting my ticket for Drogheda on Friday (Yes we are only getting 600 tickets! JOKE!) but was informed that chairman Skinny Bond has been informed a coin toss will take place this week with the final in either Tallaght or Orie

If its in Oriel, Rovers will only get the away section and the usual allocation of stand tickets

**Dodge** · 05/08/2014, 2:17 PM

League cup final really isn't that big a deal so doubt they'd need more.

There's not much you could do with Oriel to make it more "neutral" anyway. That's one big advantage Tallaght has (pver everywhere) for Setanta finals etc

**oriel** · 05/08/2014, 2:21 PM

I cant see there being a demand for more than 1k tickets from home fans for Drogs v DLk on Fri, so I'd expect 400 more will be made available.

On the LC Final, a toss of the coin is the fairest outcome, going to be a challenge with accommodating Rovers fans in the stand, unless they section off an entire panel, but would there really be more of a demand than 500 or 600 to travel up for a Lge cup final?

EDIT on Fri v Drogs, 600 is prob the limit now for H+S that they can offer to any away side, but pretty sure we took close to 1k on opening day of the season. I was there and it was biggest I recall on any DLK visit.

**placid casual** · 05/08/2014, 2:40 PM

If the final is to be in Oriel Park, the split will be 50/50.
which could mean the away section and the entire stand for Rovers fans( i dont know the capacity so thats a bit of guesswork)

anyway it will be in Tallaght anyway. its bound to be

**Charlie Darwin** · 05/08/2014, 2:48 PM

I don't see how they could justify anything other than 50/50 no matter where it is, with any excess going on general sale.

**dundalkfc10** · 05/08/2014, 2:49 PM

Originally Posted by oriel

I cant see there being a demand for more than 1k tickets from home fans for Drogs v DLk on Fri, so I'd expect 400 more will be made available.

On the LC Final, a toss of the coin is the fairest outcome, going to be a challenge with accommodating Rovers fans in the stand, unless they section off an entire panel, but would there really be more of a demand than 500 or 600 to travel up for a Lge cup final?

EDIT on Fri v Drogs, 600 is prob the limit now for H+S that they can offer to any away side, but pretty sure we took close to 1k on opening day of the season. I was there and it was biggest I recall on any DLK visit.

Yeh I have a feeling when they sell out tomorrow when they are on general sale they might release some more, prob want everyone having tickets before they get to the ground so 1/2 the away crowd dont miss the start (which always happens anyway as it takes forever to get into the ground when their is a large away following)

**dundalkfc10** · 05/08/2014, 2:50 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

I don't see how they could justify anything other than 50/50 no matter where it is, with any excess going on general sale.

Just going by what I was told, Whoever is away gets the same allocation as they would always get.

If it was in Oriel, 500 in the away end, 150/200 tickets for ya in the stand. Will yas bring much more than 700? (thats a serious question)

**Charlie Darwin** · 05/08/2014, 3:14 PM

I can't think of any reason why the "home" team would get their usual allocation other than the travelling team not requesting their full compliment.

I don't know how many Rovers would bring, to be honest, as we've never been to a cup final away from Dublin that I can think of. With Croly gone, I think there'll be a buzz around the club and I don't see any reason why there wouldn't be at least as many as travelled up for the league game.

**oriel** · 05/08/2014, 3:32 PM

Good point that Charlie on Rovers cup finals, actually would this be the first non Dublin venue cup final if it was in Oriel Pk?

**White Horse** · 05/08/2014, 3:40 PM

Originally Posted by placid casual

If the final is to be in Oriel Park, the split will be 50/50.
which could mean the away section and the entire stand for Rovers fans( i dont know the capacity so thats a bit of guesswork)

anyway it will be in Tallaght anyway. its bound to be

There are four seated areas in Oriel Park and the following are roughly the numbers of seats:

Stand - 1,200
Shed - 800
Home terrace - 700
Away terrace - 500

Total - 3,200

**harps1954** · 05/08/2014, 4:06 PM

Originally Posted by oriel

Good point that Charlie on Rovers cup finals, actually would this be the first non Dublin venue cup final if it was in Oriel Pk?

No, just off the top of my head, Harps League Cup Final v Bohs in the mid-70's was played in Oriel Park. Harps played a League Cup Final v Waterford in 1985 in Waterford too. There have been League Cup Finals played in Longford, Wexford, Waterford, Derry, Sligo and Cork in the last 10 years alone - some of them involving Dublin teams too.

In the FAI Cup, the 1973 replay between Cork Hibs and Shels was played in Flower Lodge.

**dundalkfc10** · 05/08/2014, 4:33 PM

Originally Posted by White Horse

There are four seated areas in Oriel Park and the following are roughly the numbers of seats:

Stand - 1,200
Shed - 800
Home terrace - 700
Away terrace - 500

Total - 3,200

Think the total capacity is 6500 in Oriel overall

**oriel** · 05/08/2014, 5:59 PM

Originally Posted by harps1954

No, just off the top of my head, Harps League Cup Final v Bohs in the mid-70's was played in Oriel Park. Harps played a League Cup Final v Waterford in 1985 in Waterford too. There have been League Cup Finals played in Longford, Wexford, Waterford, Derry, Sligo and Cork in the last 10 years alone - some of them involving Dublin teams too.

In the FAI Cup, the 1973 replay between Cork Hibs and Shels was played in Flower Lodge.

Thanks good to read those but I meant had Rovers ever played in a cup final outside Dublin.