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    ...The FAI are annoyed that Fran wants to advertise positions externally. It is a strong condition of the governments that the FAI do this in order to get their funding.

    It sounds like he's been trying to implement the Genesis Report, yet other board members won't let him and are blaming his 'management style'....
    November 2002 FAI Treasurer John Delaney said last night: ‘‘At the end of the day it’s not a question of money; it’s a question of absolutely having to change.’’ He didn't say who had to change... obviously wasn't referring to himself.

    Along with the new chief executive’s position, to be filled in the next three months, the other four prescribed appointments would be: director of performance, director of football operations, director of marketing and communications and director of finance and administration. This is the 'bone of contention'. According to John Treacy, FAIreland was planning to fill the positions of director of performance and director of football operations. Some of the responsibilities of both positions were currently being taken care of by the Republic of Ireland soccer manager, Brian Kerr and Packie Bonner, the FAI's technical director. (Maybe David Pleat saw an opening here"!)

    In respect of the other two posts, the responsibilities of the proposed director of corporate affairs were currently divided between two employees. (Nothing wrong with job sharing you would think!)

    Of most concern to Treacy was the fact that the FAI did not intend to advertise for a new finance director, and intended to promote somebody from within the organisation. I reckon Delaney thought he was a 'dot on the card' for this job (after all he is the only one in Merrion Square who can operate a calculator!)

    Hopefully all is now clear!

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    It's that miserable ba$tard Delaney alright, he's got 'snake' written all over his face. Someone should grab him by his girlie hair and give him a good kick up the hole.

    If Rooney is forced out it will be a disaster for football in this country. The FAI and soccer will be a laughing stock, and all progress will be stunted. Typical.

    BTW, does anyone here know what way the e-mail addresses go in the FAI. For example is it mary.byrne@fai.ie, or marybyrne@fai.ie etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
    If Rooney is forced out it will be a disaster for football in this country. The FAI and soccer will be a laughing stock, and all progress will be stunted. Typical.
    From today's Indo:

    FAI order Rooney to stay away from crunch talks
    Friday October 22nd 2004

    FAI chief executive Fran Rooney has been told not to turn up for today's Board of Management meeting at which his future with the association is due to be discussed.

    Last night Rooney received a letter from FAI president Milo Corcoran in which he was instructed to stay away, even though he is one of the nine directors on the board.

    Rooney was last night consulting with his legal advisers as he tried to work out his next move in the battle to hang on to his €250,000-a-year job.

    He had been expected to answer severe criticisms of his management of the association from senior members of staff who formally wrote to the FAI president last week and triggered today's emergency meeting of the Board.

    And it also emerged last night that members of the Board want to haul him over the coals for a joke he told about the Northern Ireland football team at a retirement function for football journalist Billy George.

    Although Rooney has publicly apologised for his gaffe, it didn't stop the Eircom League's Board of Control deciding this week to send a letter to the Irish Football Association in Belfast dissociating themselves from the remarks.

    The decision to exclude Rooney from the board meeting means that his future may not be decided today. Normal FAI procedure is to set up a sub-committee which would be asked to examine the allegations against Rooney and also carry out a detailed evaluation of his 16 months in charge of the association.

    The FAI Board will have to wade its way through the allegations and counter-allegations to find the truth but there is no doubt that there are serious issues for them to deal with.

    There is plenty of anecdotal evidence about the chaos that currently reigns within Merrion Square and it is no secret that the association has been haemorrhaging staff over the past 12 months.

    There have also been problems with some of the association's main sponsors and there is confusion about the state of the FAI's current relationship with the Government.

    Rooney believes that he has the necessary answers to the charges being levelled against him and, if he gets the chance, he is likely to demand that any investigation would also cover the FAI's ticketing operation. He claims it is causing him concern and is one of the reasons for the current crisis.

    The CEO also alleges that he is facing opposition from those opposed to his plans to continue implementing the Genesis report, something that is being strenuously denied.

    The Sports Council announced last night that it is withholding the €300,000 grant it had awarded the FAI to help them pay for the four new top management jobs, which were proposed by the Genesis Report in 2002.

    Their statement said: "In March 2004, the Irish Sports Council allocated €300,000 to the FAI for the implementation of the Genesis Report, as part of an overall allocation of €2million for 2004.

    "On October 4, high-level delegations from the Council and FAI met to discuss the latest FAI proposals on the implementation of Genesis. John Treacy appeared before the PAC again on October 5. He explained that the Council was not satisfied with the progress made on the appointment of the four Directors.

    "This position was endorsed at a meeting of the full Council of October 15. The Council authorised the chief executive to withhold the €300,000 if he was not satisfied that urgent and meaningful progress was being made on filling the Director posts.

    "A letter was issued today, October 21, requesting the FAI to provide revised proposals on the implementation of Genesis. The deadline for the new proposals is October 29. If the chief executive is not satisfied with the FAI proposals the funding will be withheld," said the statement.

    Rooney, who appeared on RTE's Primetime programme last night, said that he was confident the FAI could submit suitable proposals to the Sports Council by next week's deadline.

    However, Rooney is likely to face serious questions from the Board as to why it took him until the beginning of this month to furnish the Sports Council with his proposals.

    "There is no point in trying to fill four boxes when there are question-marks surrounding the top box," said one FAI insider last night.

    But the chief executive said last night he still remains committed to Genesis and denied that he should resign because the posts haven't been filled.

    "I am totally committed to making this happen. This isn't a question of resignation, this is a question of making it happen. I need to get the Board and every one connected to bring this forward. This has to be driven forward and it is my job to drive it forward."


    Would be interested to know what this is about!

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    I'd like to know what the Norn Iron joke was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
    BTW, does anyone here know what way the e-mail addresses go in the FAI. For example is it mary.byrne@fai.ie, or marybyrne@fai.ie etc?
    Used to be First initialSurname@fai.ie as far as I remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
    I'd like to know what the Norn Iron joke was.
    3 young fellas in school were asked what there dads did for a living, first boy said electrician, second fella said carpenter and the 3rd fella said his dad was a stripper in a gay bar, the teacher said come on Johnny don't be making it up what does your dad really do ?
    He plays for Norn Iron Miss, but I was too ashamed to say it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
    I'd like to know what the Norn Iron joke was.
    An old one but briefly

    Teacher asks class how their fathers contribute to the community.

    1) Johnny Daddy is a carpenter....

    2) Paddy Daddy is a doctor....

    3) Mickey Daddy is a stripper in a gay bar and takes it.....

    Afterwards teacher has a private word mickey your Daddy isn't a stripper is he - No Miss he is a Northern Ireland footballer but I was too emabarrassed to say it....

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    as far as i know the joke was something along the lines that a stripper in a gay bar would have as much fun as someone playing for norhtern ireland at the moment

    its hardly a sectarian comment as some newspapers reported unless he said more then i heard

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    Jaysus, can't anyone say anything anymore? So flippin' what.

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    The joke wasn't sectarian- its point merely that NI aren't very good. Fair enough, we've won only three of our 11 matches under Dirty Sanchez

    Some NI fans- and gay lobbies- are exaggerating their outrage a bit.

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    Rooney & Delaney have been very close up to this. I agree with an earlier post saying that Delaney is looking for the top job for himself.

    Here's my conspiracy theory:

    Saipan incident happened - perfect opportunity for Delaney to get Menton out. However, there are still others he wants out and he needs support in doing so. He brings Fran in as his new buddy-buddy. Together they get rid of Dillon, Fahy etc. Now there are less people in the way of Delaney's goal.

    Rooney's doing a pretty good job, how will he get rid of him? Leak as much as possible to the press, i.e. quotes and the like (in fairness Sepp Blatter is pretty famous for his major bloopers and he runs FIFA!).

    Oust out Fran and the job is open again, welcome to the big seat you sh*t Delaney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
    It's that miserable ba$tard Delaney alright, he's got 'snake' written all over his face. Someone should grab him by his girlie hair and give him a good kick up the hole.

    If Rooney is forced out it will be a disaster for football in this country. The FAI and soccer will be a laughing stock, and all progress will be stunted. Typical.

    BTW, does anyone here know what way the e-mail addresses go in the FAI. For example is it mary.byrne@fai.ie, or marybyrne@fai.ie etc?

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    Thumbs down The basic Problem is

    Johnny D. Rooney made the big mistake after taking up office of allying himself with this scumbag who has done more damage to the FAI in the last 5 yrs than they had done to themselves previously.

    He has also stated in an interview not long after he was potrayed as a crusader by amoan Dunphy that the basis for all this was to avenge a percieved wrong against his father Shoeless Joe after the Ticket Fiasco at USA '94.This man has set up various members of the FAI to do his dirty work and then shafted them Brendan Menton,John Byrne and Kevin Fahy all helped him shaft Bernard O'Byrne and help Bertie Shaft Eircom Park which would be due to open next year.


    Delaney had ensured that he had Total Control by installing his lapdog Michael Cody and removing the only 2 obstacles as he Thought Fahy and Dillon Brendan Dillon from the Board of Control before Rooney finally saw the light about 16 months too late.

    Dont forget the Public Accounts Committee have yet to get a breakdown of how Grants were handled by the FAI and the eircom League and what the clubs used them for which will cause blue murder when the full story emerges today is only the tip of the Iceberg and when the truth outs Irish Soccer could be deeper trouble than it already is.

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    The interesting aspect in this I think is certain individual's objection to the external advertising of the finance director position. Why would someone on the board object to that. Although the finance position is very very sensitive. If the person doing that role is capable then why worry about it. If a great candidate applies then ever better for the organisation - and the incumbent still has their current job. Where's the problem?

    Reading between the lines, perhaps the reluctance to go outside is because the new appointee might ask difficult questions?
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    Spot on

    and thats the reason Johnny D. is bringing this to head as a Smokescreen to cover the Financial Mismanagment that has been his Forte since he took over as treasurer.

    The Journalists have a lot more than this in their locker but the fear of Litigation (Johnny D's favourite route) has made their editors refuse to print the real truth.Meanwhile we have lost a lot of good soccer men in the FAI although other chancers like Delaney have been weeded out.

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    [QUOTE=gufct]and thats the reason Johnny D. is bringing this to head as a Smokescreen to cover the Financial Mismanagment that has been his Forte since he took over as treasurer.QUOTE]

    Rooney knows his figures, he's a chartered accountant, perhaps he asked to have a good look at the books and Delaney got scared. Now, what would he have to hide?

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    1.00 p.m. Meeting in Progress. Corcoran has formally asked Rooney not to attend while his conduct over the previous 18 months is discussed. (RTE SPORT)

    The status as "the best football association in Merrion square" looks set to continue.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bondvillain
    1.00 p.m. Meeting in Progress. Corcoran has formally asked Rooney not to attend while his conduct over the previous 18 months is discussed.

    The status as "the best football association in Merrion square" looks set to continue.....
    Where is the meeting taking place? Merrion Square? If so, does that mean Rooney sits at his desk upstairs while the lads all bitch about him?

    Don't they usually hold these crisis meetings in Citywest Hotel? Interesting if it is there, do you think he drove out anyway and is sitting in the lobby?

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    Looks like the meeting took place at some strange location so that the media couldnt see what was going on.

    The FAI is the worst organistion in the country. They wouldnt know the meaning of the word professional if someone threw a dicitionary at them on their head.

    Cant see Rooney lasting at that job. I dont think the FAI will ever properly fully reform, its too corrupt. It sickens me to the back teeth watching these muppets.

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    So Rooney cracks a joke about Northern Ireland's footballers. What the heck does that matter in the real scheme of things. There would have been damn all about it had not Delaney & Co being desperately searching for some angle to shaft him on.
    Nowadays you cannot sack someone without reason, and citing the fact that he expects you to be efficient and give value for money dos'nt stand up to well in front of an employment tribunal.
    An outburst of rightous indignation from this collection of dinosaurs, in relation to such a minor indiscretion, leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

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