Ways to create new clubs to league football

**citybone** · 09/12/2013, 9:53 PM

Originally Posted by Trainee

If are serious about getting new clubs to join the FAI must remove the minium prices clubs must charge into games ie FAI rules states admission price must be at least €10.

I guess €5 for a Adult would help crowds but it devalues the product. Still i would rather see a full ground at €5 than a 1/4 full ground at €15

**Charlie Darwin** · 09/12/2013, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Trainee

If are serious about getting new clubs to join the FAI must remove the minium prices clubs must charge into games ie FAI rules states admission price must be at least €10.

Can clubs survive on smaller ticket prices? I was at a club in Europe recently - a club who have recently been in the Europa League and have current internationals with World Cup experience - and they were charging €5 for tickets and they still barely got 500 people. The club wouldn't be viable were they not cross-subsidised by their other sporting clubs and investors.

**gufc2000** · 09/12/2013, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by citybone

Someone suggested replacing the first division with the a championship. This is a good idea. I would have a ten team premier (it would strengthen the a Championship and was suggested in the genesis report) add b teams for those who want one and encourage Kildare, Kilkenny, Monaghan, Carlow, Tralee back to the league by reducing the Registration fee. If there were a 8 Team north and 8 team south with playoffs for promotion. Lower travelling costs. Having two more "big clubs" (like Bray and Athlone) may help crowds too. With reduced fee's, lower travelling costs. it may be possible for clubs not to make a loss. The A Championship may even become appealing for big Junior/Intermediate clubs if they see teams not loosing hand over fist.

There was a lot of things stated in the Genesis Report, doesn't all mean they were worth implementing. 12 teams should be the absolute minimum imo, provides more variety and geographical spread for starters. Also removes the pathetic lets play each other 4 times

**peadar1987** · 09/12/2013, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by citybone

Someone suggested replacing the first division with the a championship. This is a good idea. I would have a ten team premier (it would strengthen the a Championship and was suggested in the genesis report) add b teams for those who want one and encourage Kildare, Kilkenny, Monaghan, Carlow, Tralee back to the league by reducing the Registration fee. If there were a 8 Team north and 8 team south with playoffs for promotion. Lower travelling costs. Having two more "big clubs" (like Bray and Athlone) may help crowds too. With reduced fee's, lower travelling costs. it may be possible for clubs not to make a loss. The A Championship may even become appealing for big Junior/Intermediate clubs if they see teams not loosing hand over fist.

Bray outside the top flight? We all know that's never going to happen!

**nigel-harps1954** · 10/12/2013, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by legendz

Like Kerry, the Mayo League competed in the U21 league and the League Cup. A club then took it on in the A Championship. The first step upon some return would be for the Mayo League to enter the U19 league. As long as underage is looked after, a team at senior level could come in time if the interest, desire and structures are there.

Harps played Mayo League in the League Cup at the start of the season and there was less than 50 people there.

An already existing club side like Castlebar Celtic would be a welcome addition, but a league team wouldn't work in my opinion.

**sadloserkid** · 10/12/2013, 7:42 AM

Originally Posted by citybone

encourage Kildare, Kilkenny, Monaghan, Carlow, Tralee back to the league

Of the teams you mentioned there only Tralee still have an adult men's team AFAIK. It's not as simple as just opening the door and inviting these extinct clubs back into the fold with promises that everything will be grand this time.

**legendz** · 10/12/2013, 8:21 AM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

Harps played Mayo League in the League Cup at the start of the season and there was less than 50 people there.

An already existing club side like Castlebar Celtic would be a welcome addition, but a league team wouldn't work in my opinion.

It would at U19 level.

With the Premier having returned to 12, I doubt it'll return to 10. There was an opportunity to merge the first division and A championship, it was taken so it's a non-runner.