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    https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-36483334.html

    Martin not talking to the media .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    Wales/Austria might have been favourable in the overall scheme of things, but they were ranked ahead of us very much on merit. They had both achieved things were could only dream about in the previous couple of years and were deserving of their high standing. Yet we still managed to out-perform both (or at least out-result them!).
    I think you might be confused with the Austrian wunderteam of the 1930s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brine3 View Post
    I think you might be confused with the Austrian wunderteam of the 1930s.
    Nope, the one that qualified for the Euros winning nine games in a row, beating Russia, Montenegro and Sweden (4-1) away from home. Does that sound like a typical (or even successful) Irish qualification campaign?

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    Mon back favourite for the stoke job

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    Yup. Flores trained this morning. Did a press conference after and said he's going nowhere. Dan McDonnell saying on Twitter that O'Neill was in and out on the phone last night.

    I considered would he be too proud to be second choice. But remembered he wasnt too proud to renege on a publicly announced verbal agreement so probably not.

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    Yep, Flores has turned it down.....to the absolute disbelief of the brains on Sky's Soccer Saturday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    Yep, Flores has turned it down.....to the absolute disbelief of the brains on Sky's Soccer Saturday.
    Yeah. No real comprehension of the practicalities of it. The man is obviously enjoying life in beautiful Barcelona on a comfortable salary. He may even get a better paid job in Spain soon. Moving a family to a hole like Stoke.. why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    Yeah. No real comprehension of the practicalities of it. The man is obviously enjoying life in beautiful Barcelona on a comfortable salary. He may even get a better paid job in Spain soon. Moving a family to a hole like Stoke.. why?
    'Coz this is the Premier League...everyone in the world watches this innit?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    Yep, Flores has turned it down.....to the absolute disbelief of the brains on Sky's Soccer Saturday.
    Guess he can’t do it on a cold wet Tuesday night in Stoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    Yeah. No real comprehension of the practicalities of it. The man is obviously enjoying life in beautiful Barcelona on a comfortable salary. He may even get a better paid job in Spain soon. Moving a family to a hole like Stoke.. why?
    Darn it . That Espanyol job sounds appetising alright .

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    RTÉ reporting, that The Torygraph are reporting that Monkeano have been offered the job(s). I hope (t)he(y) take(s) it tbh. It's been a sham of a week.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018...ke-job-report/

    and the source...


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...neill-new/amp/
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    RTÉ reporting, that The Torygraph are reporting that Monkeano have been offered the job(s). I hope (t)he(y) take(s) it tbh. It's been a sham of a week.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018...ke-job-report/

    and the source...


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...neill-new/amp/

    Careful what you wish for. FAI(lure) are not going to pay compo for a new manager so we will be left with the prospect of Noel King caretaker manager until after summer

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    I honestly don't mind that tbh.

    I just think that the way this has played out has left a sour taste in the mouth. Bit like Mick after 2002. It's a case of "Know when to go".
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    Strange decision by MON and RK to attend that dinner given what’s going on and that it had been announced they wouldn’t be there. Presumably they were trying to indicate commitment to ROI which now looks very weak with Flores turning down offer.

    General consensus in media now seems to be they have to go. Eyes turned. Oddly I think most fans are probably indifferent which reflects mood post Denmark shambles. Post Austria away one year earlier, majority of fans were very happy with set up. Hard to know best step now, a lot depends on who replacement would be. If MON stays, this and the DK games will loom largely over next campaign.

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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...mpression=true

    Telegraph reporting MON has turned down Stoke...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park_Lane View Post
    Careful what you wish for. FAI(lure) are not going to pay compo for a new manager so we will be left with the prospect of Noel King caretaker manager until after summer
    I actually thought Noel King did alright last time (reasonably ok performance in Germany, all things considered, and a solid win over Kazakhstan)

    But I think there's an overhaul of the squad required at the moment, and that requires getting a manager in place sooner rather than later, be that O'Neill or someone else.

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    I think it would have been best if he'd just gone. To enter serious negotiations for another job after his supposed commitment to the new contract was publicly confirmed by the FAI a few months back is farcical really. It suggests his interest in the job is half-hearted, which obviously isn't ideal. Moods have been low since Denmark - and I would have been happy to see someone else brought in after that anyway - but this episode will have done nothing to inspire some badly-needed confidence in O'Neill or positivity in general. It all feels a bit shabby.

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    Am I the only one who doesn't see his near-departure as a serious issue?

    So he was interested in a different job, but decided to stay...so what? Is there any suggestion that he (and Keane) will be any less focused on the Ireland job from now on?
    I would imagine he was looking at potentially suitable club jobs as they became available throughout his tenure as Ireland manager anyway, I'd say most managers do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    Am I the only one who doesn't see his near-departure as a serious issue?

    So he was interested in a different job, but decided to stay...so what? Is there any suggestion that he (and Keane) will be any less focused on the Ireland job from now on?
    I would imagine he was looking at potentially suitable club jobs as they became available throughout his tenure as Ireland manager anyway, I'd say most managers do.
    If someone doesnt want to be in a job and are actively looking around for s new job, that person tends to have their eye off the ball

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