At its core, the poppy is meant to be a symbol of peace.
It has, however, become quite the opposite
Yes I remember the poppy wars when the poppies were getting bigger and more elaborate, in a kind of beat you neighbor
kind of thing, now is seems to have gone into reverse where the competition is to wear the smallest poppy imaginable.
I think Rod Stewart was doing something last year, I think he is a big supporter of the forces, royal British legion.
He was on the graham norton show with no obvious red poppy when everyone else had one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1Y01_jEkkA
Personally I don't wear one, least not because any values they might have though they were fighting for
have long been consigned to the dustbin so they basically fought to produce the grossly unfair corrupt and unequal
society we now live in.
They would have been better off turning their guns on their own officers, the likes of thicko playboy Prince Harry
who spent his time playing strip pool with hookers in the USA whilst them men he 'lead' were dodging the roadside
bombs in Afghanistan.
At its core, the poppy is meant to be a symbol of peace.
It has, however, become quite the opposite
Folding my way into the big money!!!
Hmm, Rod being a bit of a Tim was probably avoiding for his own political reasons. Don't know about any Forces connection, but like any individual it's down to personal choice at the end of the day.
That said, as with the likes of MO'N & RMK, even every single non-entity is supposed to wear one on Brit.TV from mid-October onwards where it's the most over-exposed propaganda tool ever.
He probably got co-opted like most celebs do. And he might just remember post-war rationing...
The country responds to the RMK appointment.
http://balls.ie/football/10-ways-iri...act-roy-keane/
Whether they were pressured into wearing poppies or donned them voluntarily, it's not as if they'd get away with opting against wearing them live on ITV at this time of year. That would generate more outrage and hassle in the media than it's probably worth for them right now.
Were the motives behind the World Wars really as "glorious" as they make out though?
Not quite: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...d-6257416.html
Originally Posted by Robert Fisk
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 06/11/2013 at 1:43 PM.
Which one are you?: http://balls.ie/football/10-ways-iri...act-roy-keane/
Originally Posted by Balls.ie
Erm, beat you to it, Danny.
Though you made rather more effort...
Last edited by bennocelt; 06/11/2013 at 8:56 AM.
Bennocelt, can you please quit sending reputation comments to my private message inbox?
I'd wear one out of respect for the thousands of National Volunteers who died fighting in WW1 on the promise of Home Rule and those Irishmen who died in WW2 fighting fascism.
And speaking of war, Keane and O'Neill are appointed so good luck to them. I personally dislike Keane but he is now assistant manager so for the sake of the team, I hope it goes well. I still think it reminds me of Stalin's non-aggression pact with Hitler. Who knows, it might work for a short time but then again.....
Football will now overtake rugby for a while as the main sports item during the winter so that can't be a bad thing. Certainly the event junkies will be back for the Latvia game.
I know that Keane will be eyeing the main job but that's down the road.
Delaney is much despised in some quarters but he has swallowed a lot of pride in the Keane appointment and to continue to keep Denis O'Brien involved is good work.
Ad astra per aspera.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
I think you might have said this last year, and I think my response was the same. Why do you wear one? Just to fit in? Or you identify somehow? What exactly are you supporting?
I've noticed through experience that those who work in the City, feel the need to wear it for some very obscure reason. I don't get it at all.
And I can always, always tell the kind of people, the demographic of Irish who wear them.
People always claim the poppy symbol is peace, I don't buy that one bit really, at least in the UK. ANd what I find awfully stupid is the argument "fighting and dying for you", maybe slightly for those back in WWII but that has very little relevance now.
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
Does anyone remember the time when Wood got really angry and embarassed on BBC1 when he took it off and then he reappeared with it on?
Whats the point in forcing someone to wear it? Surely thats not very peaceful, the key is in the word
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
Its not completely understandable it means nothing. It's like saying, you support the black panther movement because you live in Southern State america and your wife is black.
What if all the Irish that moved to Germany during WWII and started wearing or supporting some such symbol through donations cos Germany was good to them and their wife was German?
Stutts, I'm not having a go, I just don't see how he thinks its completely understandable.
England has been good to me, from money and job it couldn't be better thus far and I am very considered in my thinking because of this, I've even worked with some former generals in the army who served in NI, heck all the way up the chain was General Sir Mike Jackson, but at no time did I ever wear one or feel the need to wear one, for any tenuous links or to fit in with company(double entendre not intended).
When I say demographic above I don't mean the Northen Irish either....
Last edited by paul_oshea; 06/11/2013 at 4:13 PM.
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
I lived in london for yonks, and the funny thing is many English people dont wear them at all - even been to football games on the day of remembrance weekend and sweet fa wearing poppies - what are the media trying to portray
Also told to f off back to ireland when i refused to buy one (due to the wars in iraq, etc), and then you hear comments without the British we would be speaking German! (That would be fine by me,ha).
Wear the Poppy, thats fine, but fecking three weeks before, thats a bit much
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