I'd going to go out on a limb here and suggest there may be a middle ground.Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
You can't spell failure without FAI
What are you babbling about?
You're ranting needlessly. Again. With little to no provocation.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Exactly. There should be a middle ground. Our players are not world beaters and Keane doesn't think they are, but their faults are nowhere near as exaggerated as the previous management made them out to be.
Damn right Keane should expect them to have the same high standards for themselves that he maintained over his illustrious career.
He's far from a nutjob. He's just coming from a perspective where he is getting paid to be as good at his job as possible and not have as good a time as possible.
The "nutjob" comment about Keane was excessive. Of course I am going to argue it.
Excessive? About right all things considered.
I'd waited long enough. I f****** hit him hard. The ball was there (I think). Take that you c***. And don't ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries.For starters.Even in the dressing room afterwards, I had no remorse. My attitude was, f*** him. What goes around comes around. He got his just rewards. He f***** me over and my attitude is an eye for an eye.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
I think it's very unfair to overlook all the trophies he won and his managerial accomplishments at Sunderland and condense it all into one flashpoint involving Alf-Inge Haaland.
He's a bit more than a "nutjob" and his personality got him a lot further in his career than any of the other wallflowers we currently have in our squad.
Last edited by TheOneWhoKnocks; 15/03/2014 at 3:13 PM.
Smashing player - genuine world class. Half decent manager. Nutjob.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Stu, Stu, Stu... Keane didn't write that. Eamon Dunphy invented it all. That's a fact. Roy and Alfie are great pals.
I certainly feel there's some ambiguity in those Keane quotes.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
People saying James McCarthy needs to be more aggressive, assertive and vocal and then they show condescension towards Roy Keane and reduce to him a stereotype because of his aggression and assertiveness.
People saying James McCarthy needs to be more aggressive, assertive and vocal and then they show condescension towards Roy Keane and reduce to him a stereotype because of his aggression and assertiveness.Again.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Nice little article in Sunday Times yesterday by Paul Rowan in relation to Keane's ITV career and conflict of interests with Ireland. Firstly we have a friendly the day after Champions League Final. Saying that Keane is ITV's trump card that night in ratings battle with Sky, would he leave Irish camp midstream for tv work?
Secondly and similar to Gary Neville's position, Rowan highlights Keane commenting on Irish players a few days after he worked with them. Refers to what he said about Coleman after Arsenal FA Cup defeat (and 4 days after Serbia defeat).... heard it myself, he said Coleman still has things to learn etc.... I thought at the time Keane was on shaky ground commenting on his players as a pundit like that...
Keane saying that a doubtlessly talented Irish player "has things to learn" is hardly a bad thing. And no doubt he has probably mentioned it to Seamie in person during squad sessions.
If Keane had called Seamie "brutal and not up to it" then maybe we could have an issue. But if Seamie was actually brutal and not up to it he wouldn't be playing for Ireland.
The conflict-of-interest is hardly any worse than when club managers are commenting on games.
I fail to see where Keane's role as International assistant manager is an actual conflict with his role as a pundit?
Keane will no doubt be in Lisbon the night of the game for ITV and will no doubt be back for the game v Turkey. It couldn't actually harm the squad's preparations, given he is the ASSISTANT after all!
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
I'm not going to touch this one with a ten foot pole.
He's said nothing much so far on the Irish players. What does he do? hold back on the scorn? or dare I say it .... heaven forbid ..... fake his punditry?
Maybe he just sees himself as a cone setter, not a serious manager like Ferguson. And one who'd rather make impact in the football world as the acerbic angry box office pundit. How the Mighty have fallen
I thought he was only doing European matches. Not much chance of Irish players featuring there.
Don't ITV cover the FA cup?
Maybe they don't front their first team for that event
Anthony Stokes did, once or twice.
Let us remember the good times.
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Clearly I'm using the wrong bait!
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