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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    C'mon, tricky; we're a dream team now. If your heedless impulses had been keeping up with your superfluous sister thread, you'd have noticed that DeNiro made that observation a full twelve hours ago!
    Seems I missed that somehow, indeed I was surprise it had not been mentioned, seems I just was blind to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosby87 View Post
    Stupid Question probably but do you chaps reckon Robbie could go on loan to a Prem club?
    Don't think any are *that* desperate

    Seriously though, he would not I expect, be able to get the kind of money he gets over there, so why would he want to
    move to the Prem?
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    I just meant that the MLS season is over. But yeah he probably wants to relax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosby87 View Post
    I just meant that the MLS season is over. But yeah he probably wants to relax.

    Oh yes I had forgot about that and was doing him a bit of a disservice with my cheeky comments.
    He did play for Villa in early 2012, but not in 2013. Villa were relegation candidates that year, it's
    two years on now.

    Maybe it was just that the conditions were right that year, I mean he only played a few games, normally
    clubs have their squads picked for the relevant period, so Robbie would have to a significant
    improvement on what they had for them to consider dropping a regular striker perhaps.

    Or maybe after being reminded what a British winter was like he felt he would be better off in sunny California!!

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    I'm glad the initial press mutterings are nearly done with. I'm not sure i can take much more of O'Neill's sense of humour. Time to do the talking on the pitch.
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    Compared to other managerial unveilings, the response to O'Neill seemed quite muted. Dunphy mentions he was nervous which I can agree with. The games with Latvia and Poland will be interesting to a point, more telling about where we are going is when he picks the squads himself.

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    It was well reported but there does appear to be a feeling of 'after the lord mayors show' about it. At least I wasn't that interested.
    The main questions asked had already been answered and well discussed beforehand. The shock news value of the appointment had already upstaged the unveiling event.
    Now comes the reality check a couple of friendlies with old eastern block countries.

    I doubt if O'Neill himself would have picked a much different squad from the available players.

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    Why is the name sometimes O'Neal, sometimes O'Neill. Tis confuses me. Shaq is one way, the Irish manager is another. Tis ashame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I'm glad the initial press muttering a are nearly done with. I'm not sure i can take much more of O'Neill's sense of humour. Time to do the talking on the pitch.
    Saw the conference in full last night - his numerous attempts at sarcastic humour were truly cringeworthy.

    I wonder how many more times will we have to hear the "Ive asked myself that many times" line from him
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    Did anyone read Paul Rowan yesterday? I got a text from a pal saying that PR is saying that MON is treating the job as a joke. I don't subscribe to the Sunday Times so didn't see the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosby87 View Post
    Why is the name sometimes O'Neal, sometimes O'Neill. Tis confuses me. Shaq is one way, the Irish manager is another. Tis ashame.
    Both spelling versions are 'valid'. The original surname was in gaelic and there are a few derivatives but O'Neill is a much more common surname.
    Afaia, those who shipped the Irish to the USA and those in Ellis island, went to extremes to accurately record the names of the immigrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Did anyone read Paul Rowan yesterday? I got a text from a pal saying that PR is saying that MON is treating the job as a joke. I don't subscribe to the Sunday Times so didn't see the article.
    As far as Irish soccer writers go, I don't have much respect for Paul Rowan. Always trying to stir something up or make a story out of a non-story.

    I didn't read the piece but I'd hope MON treats the job seriously but brings back the element of fun that's been missing from Irish teams for far too long. I hope he enjoys the job. To say he's treating it as a joke is a very serious accusation and I'd have zero idea where he's getting that idea from. I really enjoyed his press conference and if you're looking to treat a job managing a country as a laugh, RK is the last person you'd ask to be your assistant.

    The old man gets the ST so I'll ask him about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yard of Pace View Post
    As far as Irish soccer writers go, I don't have much respect for Paul Rowan. Always trying to stir something up or make a story out of a non-story.
    i read in Saturday's paper that Roy Curtis was named sportswriter of the year. Now that is laughable
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixer82 View Post
    i read in Saturday's paper that Roy Curtis was named sportswriter of the year. Now that is laughable
    Neil Francis won Sports Columnist of the Year.
    http://www.independent.ie/sport/fran...-29741191.html

    Like the Mercury Prize these are truly discredited now.
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    Tbf, Rowan's, 'The Team That Jack Built' was half-decent. And read some OK articles by him over the years but unfamiliar with his recent (ie. the last 10?years) work. Is he really that bad?

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    I've met Paul quite a few times. Nice chap, but I do agree with Yopper's take on things in that he is usually trying to put a cynical angle on things. Of course, in context of Irish football, he'd often be right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by back of the net View Post
    Saw the conference in full last night - his numerous attempts at sarcastic humour were truly cringeworthy.

    I wonder how many more times will we have to hear the "Ive asked myself that many times" line from him
    Ha, it's only his first week. After he gets a game or two out of the way and gets to know his individual players a bit better, I'm sure he'll be able to come up with more concrete answers rather than the stock first-week reply to, "So, why did you take the job and bring in Roy as assistant?" I felt he answered well during the press conference by avoiding overly specific territory in relation to available players.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosby87 View Post
    Why is the name sometimes O'Neal, sometimes O'Neill. Tis confuses me. Shaq is one way, the Irish manager is another. Tis ashame.
    There's reality (where Martin's surname is spelled "O'Neill") and then there's the world of tricky (where Martin's surname is spelled "O Neil").

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Did anyone read Paul Rowan yesterday? I got a text from a pal saying that PR is saying that MON is treating the job as a joke. I don't subscribe to the Sunday Times so didn't see the article.
    God forbid, surely not Undercover Agent Martin of the IFA?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Ha, it's only his first week. After he gets a game or two out of the way and gets to know his individual players a bit better, I'm sure he'll be able to come up with more concrete answers rather than the stock first-week reply to, "So, why did you take the job and bring in Roy as assistant?" I felt he answered well during the press conference by avoiding overly specific territory in relation to available players.
    Im not doubting his ability to deal with the press or anything.
    When not trying to be humerous - he answered the questions fine and came across very well.

    I wouldnt be holding out for a better comedy performance from him though Danny, whether it be his first week or not.

    In saying that though, some of the questions asked by the journalists were pretty limited and in some cases repetitive
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    Well there really isn't that much to ask him. He's just starting. Rowan's accusations are fairly serious (if that's what the article says). O'Neill is on 1.3M so you'd want to be taking it more than a little seriously.
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