(Very early) Transfer gossip/squad retention

**CityRebel** · 09/12/2013, 1:42 PM

Show us the money!!!

Bizarre move for a guy looking to go to England.

**Louth4sam** · 09/12/2013, 1:49 PM

Originally Posted by CityRebel

Bizarre move for a guy looking to go to England.

Why so? The club now have four players from the team of the year who are 22 or younger including the three nominees for young player of the year. If he wants to get noticed by scouts Dundalk is the place to be.

**CityRebel** · 09/12/2013, 1:53 PM

Originally Posted by Louth4sam

Why so? The club now have four players from the team of the year who are 22 or younger including the three nominees for young player of the year. If he wants to get noticed by scouts Dundalk is the place to be.

Who's the last player ye sold to an English club?

**Charlie Darwin** · 09/12/2013, 1:54 PM

Originally Posted by CityRebel

Who's the last player ye sold to an English club?

Danny Kearns I think.

**White Horse** · 09/12/2013, 2:09 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Danny Kearns I think.

Ben McLaughlin to Everton during the summer of 2012 was the last one. Currently playing with Everton's U21s.

**Louth4sam** · 09/12/2013, 2:09 PM

Originally Posted by CityRebel

Who's the last player ye sold to an English club?

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Danny Kearns I think.

Ben McLaughlin to Everton.

Our record of bringing through youth has been pretty poor over past few years.

**sadloserkid** · 09/12/2013, 3:15 PM

Originally Posted by CityRebel

Bizarre move for a guy looking to go to England.

Maybe he's not as pushed about going to England as you believe? Maybe he just considers Dundalk a better career option than Cork at the moment?

**A face** · 09/12/2013, 3:51 PM

Originally Posted by Acer

This can't be true. Dundalk nearly went under a little over a year ago.

Even with the cited new sources of revenue, this is a recipe for disaster. Just have a horrible feeling its gonna be a headline for a good while in a year or two. Maybe not, fingers crossed, but either way its not sustainable.

Originally Posted by Acer

Surely no team in the LOI is in a position to pay a 20k transfer fee.

It's not a transfer fee though.

Originally Posted by sadloserkid

Newsflash: He's not.

Exactly, that's why i said if !!!

**dundalkfc10** · 09/12/2013, 4:30 PM

David McMillan signed for Dundalk, confirmed on our website

**Terry** · 09/12/2013, 4:32 PM

Originally Posted by sadloserkid

Maybe he's not as pushed about going to England as you believe? Maybe he just considers Dundalk a better career option than Cork at the moment?

Or that his friends John Mountney and Patrick Hoban plays there too

**White Horse** · 09/12/2013, 4:35 PM

Originally Posted by Terry

Or that his friends John Mountney and Patrick Hoban plays there too

Nice Galway connection building up in Oriel Park.

**Aaron** · 09/12/2013, 5:49 PM

Originally Posted by oriel

Just a few things re the Griffin 'transfer'

The fee was never agreed & Derry have still not paid us anything.

Also this will have to be settled in time for 2014 PD licence being awarded to Derry.

I don't imagine it will be huge money, but it will still need to be paid.

We wont be paying a fee, Dundalk ballsed up with his contract offer, hence we didnt need to pay compo

**Terry** · 09/12/2013, 6:03 PM

Originally Posted by White Horse

Nice Galway connection building up in Oriel Park.

And you could add Stephen O'Donnell to that also, I think ye let go Vinny Faherty if I'm right?

**oriel** · 09/12/2013, 6:24 PM

Originally Posted by Aaron

We wont be paying a fee, Dundalk ballsed up with his contract offer, hence we didnt need to pay compo

I heard this today, but appears to be nothing less than a loophole that Derry are hoping to expose, nothing has been decided yet re a fee, so this will still effect Derry's licence until a final decision is made.

Horgan transfer not a done deal just yet, will possibly be announced tomorrow, compensation is well below the 20k figure that has been suggested.

**oriel** · 09/12/2013, 6:26 PM

Originally Posted by Terry

And you could add Stephen O'Donnell to that also, I think ye let go Vinny Faherty if I'm right?

Faherty will not be re-signing.

Current Co Galway contingent in OP, is O'Donnell, Hoban, Mountney & Rossiter (who is moving to Galway to live !!) and possibly Horgan if that goes through.

**A N Mouse** · 09/12/2013, 6:58 PM

Originally Posted by oriel

I heard this today, but appears to be nothing less than a loophole that Derry are hoping to expose, nothing has been decided yet re a fee, so this will still effect Derry's licence until a final decision is made.

Horgan transfer not a done deal just yet, will possibly be announced tomorrow, compensation is well below the 20k figure that has been suggested.

It wouldn't be the first time Derry exploited this loophole.

Horgan would not be a transfer.

Other than that good to see negotiation, over compensation fees, has suddenly become acceptable in parts of louth.

**Acer** · 10/12/2013, 9:02 AM

Originally Posted by White Horse

Fans are questioning whether spending €20k is wisest use of the money, but it is still a relatively small part of our annual budget.

Our annual budget in 2013 to run the club was around €600k. It is probably going to be closer to €700k in 2014. The compensation payment to Cork will amount, at it's most, to less than 3% of our budget.

If Horgan goes on to have a great season, everyone will say the €20k was well spent, if he does a "Marc Griffin", they will say the opposite.

I don't understand your absolute aversion to compensation payments. Why single those out over player wages, number of coaches, or the number of players in a squad?

Fair point. If Dundalk are increasing their budget significantly then it's their prerogative to allocate it wherever they want. My 'absolute aversion' to transfer/compensation fees is that, in the past, it has indicated a financial recklessness by the club paying and it's usually followed by a * sitting beside the team's name in the table. Again, for a club that almost went under, it's a big gamble but I suppose it's their right to take it.

**disgruntled** · 10/12/2013, 9:22 AM

Originally Posted by oriel

I heard this today, but appears to be nothing less than a loophole that Derry are hoping to expose, nothing has been decided yet re a fee, so this will still effect Derry's licence until a final decision is made.

Horgan transfer not a done deal just yet, will possibly be announced tomorrow, compensation is well below the 20k figure that has been suggested.

Whatever the amount Dundalk seem to be spending quite a bit of money.
I hope they have it & are not just another League of Ireland club chasing the dream again.
League of Ireland history is full of dream chasers & it usually ends in tears.
Spending the money isn't the problem, its paying the invoices when they come in that's the problem.

**White Horse** · 10/12/2013, 9:23 AM

Originally Posted by Acer

Fair point. If Dundalk are increasing their budget significantly then it's their prerogative to allocate it wherever they want. My 'absolute aversion' to transfer/compensation fees is that, in the past, it has indicated a financial recklessness by the club paying and it's usually followed by a * sitting beside the team's name in the table. Again, for a club that almost went under, it's a big gamble but I suppose it's their right to take it.

My concern is increasing the budget on the basis of anticipated additional match day revenue as a result of increasing ticket prices by almost 50%.

Whether the increased budget is spent on compensation payments, additional players, or higher salaries is not that important.

I would be lying if I said I am not worried and that there are not risks involved. The additional costs are 100% certain to arise, not so the additional revenue.

**Dodge** · 10/12/2013, 9:28 AM

Compensation is fairly complicated. It's based on age, wages, length of time with a club etc. That's if it goes to tribunal. Sligo and Salthill will also get a part of this payment (as it's a development fee, and they played their part in his development too)

Didn't Dundalk pay about 10k on the 2 lads from Mervue 2 years ago? That McCaffrey spoofer may just have been the worst manager the league has ever seen.