QuoteSalthill presumably won't be competing next season. Which clears the way for a eight-tier system of two sides apiece.Originally Posted by Trainee
Shels will be relegated to first, so if Mervue go up its means bray will be relegated too.
Salthill presumably won't be competing next season. Which clears the way for a eight-tier system of two sides apiece.
I know I might be being stupid on here (not for the 1st time)
The 1st division has 8 teams
if Salthill pull out that leaves 7
Athlone go up that leaves 6
it looks like Shels are going down back up to 7
if Mervue or Longford go it it will mean a premier team (probably Bray) coming down thats still 7 teams
please explain!
Oh yeah, maths was never my strongest subject. But then again it's pretty much impossible for Bray to actually be relegated. It'd probably bring on the apocalypse.
Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.
I don't see how 7 is sustainable (if it was 7, which I'm not sure it would be), whoever goes up or comes down.
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I don't see it how 7 is suddenly less sustainable than 8. The FD will potter on until there are less than 6 I'd say.
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4 fewer games, 2 fewer home games. You're talking about 24 league games in, what, 35 weeks in the season is it?
Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.
The FAI will just add another round probably. Anything to paper over the cracks.
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A free week in every seven for a club.. two fewer home games. Clubs are hanging on by their fingernails even without doing anything reckless or silly, and soon we could cross the tipping point where more just pack it in. Perhaps the season could be contracted with the first starting later than the premier, meaning fewer week's wage to pay .. maybe something could be cobbled together and we could limp on with seven. But we seriously need the powers that be to take things in hand and provide a vision and strategy for the league rather than inconsistent short term improvisation.
#NeverStopNotGivingUp
I don't know what they're opinion is this season, but Waterford were going to pull out last year if it was 7. (Trying to stay the right side of the site rules) The impression in my local paper, if things stay as they are, and Longford won the playoff, there'd be serious questions about whether it'd be 7 teams in the first.
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They appear determined to remain in the league:
http://www.waterford-united.ie/club-statement/
Obviously they have a lot of work to do as the issues that became clear earlier in the year show.The Board would like to reaffirm its commitment to maintaining League of Ireland football in Waterford but the task of regrouping will require support and commitment from all quarters.
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The long and short of it is that the FAI either make it easier, financially, to become part of the LOI at the FD level for potential applicants - that is, lower the entrance fee and maybe some of the infrastructure criteria - or they merge the two tiers into one, at least for a time. Continuing on with 7 or 6 clubs in the FD will be possible for one, maybe two season at most before the lost revenue and lack of opportunities make the question redundant. Mervue, Salthill, Waterford and Wexford could all conceivably be gone from the LOI in the next 24 months.
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They could start with not actively blocking willing and able clubs, like they did with GUST.
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Exactly, stifle the growth of what could be a great club by people who love the club, and for what? Are they listen to junior sides/leagues too much or what? Sounds very dodge to me to be honest. I just dont think they can afford to be playing around with potential clubs like they are.
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
I wrote another rant, but screw it who cares at this stage. FAI do what they like, protect their positions at ANY cost and look after the licka***s that keep them "democratically" in their positions.
Pssin in the wind would be an understatement.
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I actually believe that GUST are being unfairly punished for Galway United's actions. It's obvious that the FAI have a grudge and an agenda against GUST. I feel a lot of it boils back to the 2006 promotion. The FAI took a lot of flak for that and believed the lies told to them by Galway United which then embarrassingly came back to bite them in the arse.
It may have become personal for the FAI over time, but in the grand scheme of things it's not even about GUST. The only thing certain FAI officials and want is to keep control of whatever joke-shop is happening in Galway. Makes absolutely no difference to them who it is or how good or bad they are, as long as it's their puppet.
It's just that GUST want to fix things and bring everyone that actually wants to help in together and have a FORAS type situation. Ideally what should happen is a co-op with ultimate say over the club would exist, with GUST ceasing to exist.
A proper co-op structure and club like FORAS were allowed to create and were lauded for doing so by the FAI hasn't been allowed because it would take away this control from the FAI.
Sort of back to the topic, Mervue have done a super job this season, but promotion or no, there is no appetite for LOI football among their membership so a couple of more seasons is all I could have seen them competing for. It's just too much of a financial strain where you gates don't even pay the match officials.
I don't think it makes any difference whether Mervue are in the LOI next season or not in terms of Jokeshop FC happening. The whole reason for it is to keep those votes and positions away from the great unwashed. Galway FC would just be a couple of reps from Mervue and Devon showing their faces and keeping the GUSTies from getting any ideas about fixing anything.
Regarding merging the divisions, I'd be all for a single division now, there'd be a good bit of variety in the games. Changed my mind on it as I was against the idea.
I wonder is one of the reasons some clubs are against it because it would extend the season length? If you had 30 teams in the division the season would be about 5 series longer.
The season is way too short at the moment IMO.
A longer season would be no harm, but even with 6 teams left to make up the First Division it would be better for everybody to have 2 divisions.
No relegation is a terrible idea. More games against bigger teams is not a justification for doing it. It doesn't make all the negatives disappear. Games against big teams or not, if you are outside the top few teams, nobody will care if you win or lose.
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