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Thread: Ireland V Germany(A) 11th October & Kazakhstan(H) 15th October 2013 - World Cup '14 Q

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    3-0 is about right. Forde would be a Premier League player if he could improve his distribution. Strange that there were no substitutions.

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    I was going to say that Stokes was the one good thing from the game but that last chance he had was disturbing how much he flopped it. He kept making intelligent runs the whole game which was great to see.

    All in all very depressing. Noel King showed a lack of intelligence and as usual our midfield was swamped. Our passing was horrific and no leaders on the pitch yet again. The lack of substitutes was also bizarre as you could see the team was completely knackered by the end of it.

    We are in transition, a string of depressing games to come i hate to say

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    Why didn't King bring on fresh legs in midfield and up front?

    The players were shattered chasing shadows.

    Seems that King can talk the talk but not walk the walk.

    Well done to Forde and the lads at the back.

    Stokes and Gibson showed why Trap never picked them, useless.

    Why wasn't Long playing? He was fit.
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    Pretty poor. Have to question King's line-up an tactics and when was the last time any team played 90minutes without making a sub(well since the 60's anyhow). Thank god for David Forde amazing perfromance
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    I thought it was funny at the final whistle when Glen Whelan went straight to Ozil to ask him to swap his jersey. Ozil wasnt too interested in talking to him.

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    Snappin all round.. King lost all objectivity when selecting that team. It's like he hyper analysed the german team and thought he was being super clever picking what he thought was the best team to nullify Germany..

    That should be a factor in any selection (don't get me wrong) but not the sole factor. King didn't consider our players and what they could bring to the table. Tried to be too clever thinking "outside the box".

    Forde's performance was commendable but nothing you wouldn't expect at that level IMO.
    I pity the fool!.... But suggest ways that he might improve himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuyahoga View Post
    I thought it was funny at the final whistle when Glen Whelan went straight to Ozil to ask him to swap his jersey. Ozil wasnt too interested in talking to him.
    Probably because he didn't see him all night...
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    Forget it, even a 'decent' Ireland side could easily have lost 3-0. Germany are that much better.

    King clearly using as a training exercise and still hopeful we can sneak a win v. the Kazakhs and somehow get third?

    Actually, there's no way we can come 3rd. FFS.
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    Bizarre night really not sure I know what Kings game plan was anymore than the players did. I think once Robbie wasn't going to play his original plan went out the window.

    Disappointed Sheamie didn't have more of an impact maybe the captaincy was too much too soon.

    Thought Gibson and Whelan did ok but there was too many players either out of position or just not at the races.

    As for Ronnie Whelan, when he said after 60 secs "the Irish players can't seem to get a hold of the ball" I switched off. A fantastic footballer but an absolute clown, if it's not Liverpool he's not interested.

    It's going to take a period of time, I'm not sure how much, to get some players mindset changed from the trap era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Forget it, even a 'decent' Ireland side could easily have lost 3-0. Germany are that much better.
    True... But still!! Analysis Paralysis happened Noel King tonight with that selection. Kerr used to be guilty of it to a degree but not to tonight's extent.
    I pity the fool!.... But suggest ways that he might improve himself.

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    One thing we have learnt from tonight's match is the Ireland isn't Germany.

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    Anyone know who the band playing out at the end of tonight's programme were?

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    I was shocked by the team selection as well. It was a tough job for King to take on though. Up against one of the best teams in the world, without the 3 most experienced players and having a very much inexperienced back 4. I suppose the team was mainly picked for containment. Concede as few goals as possible and hopefully have stolen a goal. Some of Stokes' decision making was disappointing intermingled with some good play. I'll cut King some slack for tonight's bizarre nullifying selection if he puts out a team with the right balance for defence and attack, with the right players in the right positions, for Tuesday night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuyahoga View Post
    I thought it was funny at the final whistle when Glen Whelan went straight to Ozil to ask him to swap his jersey. Ozil wasnt too interested in talking to him.
    I'd be embarrassed to do that.
    You lose 3-0 and all you're worried about is swapping jerseys. I remember Green doing the same against Russia with Arshavin

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    3-0 is about right. Forde would be a Premier League player if he could improve his distribution. Strange that there were no substitutions.
    3-1 would have been more right.
    King wasn't been paid enough to make substitutions.

    First time ever that I've shut the volume down on RTE, pathetic commentary performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IsMiseSean View Post
    I'd be embarrassed to do that.
    You lose 3-0 and all you're worried about is swapping jerseys. I remember Green doing the same against Russia with Arshavin
    I guess a few players shirts are worth more without a name on the back!!!
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    TRAP OUT.......ah ffs forgot he gone already......KING OUT.....now.....i think?

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    Can't understand why Noel did not make any subs, he took a load of players out there he could at least
    have given some of them some game time, especially Andy Reid.

    What did he gain from making no subs? Nothing,

    It's rude apart from anything else. Pointless and a waste of time..

    I had some optimism before the match but we would have been better off with Trap.

    The clowns running the FAI need a kick up the ass, assuming they can find someone who would not miss it.
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    BRING BACK TRAP!!!

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