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    Looks like they had it done on the cheap the IFA must have a tight grip on finance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom View Post
    Definitely jumping the gun on this, but considering we're now in third spot, has anyone looked at the potential opponents?

    Holland almost a certainty,
    Israel (although Bosnia could pip them),
    Ukraine too.
    Slovenia
    Hungary
    Russia or Montenegro (the last match between them in Petersburg is a decider)
    Norway
    1 from Albania/Portugal/Denmark - a poxy group of the highest order.

    I'd expect whoever comes third in that final group will qualify automatically. I'd imagine Holland, Ukraine, Russia will be seeds. I'm not sure if it's possible for us to be seeded, given Hungary and Norway's improvement.

    If we're not seeded <shudders>, but even if we were to be seeded, I still wouldn't fancy us, I'd be praying for Israel or for Slovenia to mess up and hope that Estonia or Lithuania can capitalise. Even Hungary.

    According to http://www.footballseeding.com/national-ranking-uefa/ we would currently be ranked 21st in UEFA.

    What we want is for these guys to finish 3rd.

    Group A: Turkey (26th) ,
    Group B: Israel (27th),
    Group E: Estonia (29th) or Slovenia (38th)
    Group H: Norway(23rd)

    Most are already third just need Israel to hold off Bosnia, and Turkey to hold off Netherlands for them both to keep third. Need Croatia to over take Norway and drop Norway into 3rd.

    A little more far fetched would be below, but would also help us be seeded for the playoff draw - if we make it.

    We can also root for Montenegro (32nd) to somehow nip Russia (15th) for 3rd in G.

    In Group C we could hope for Slovakia (24th) to slip behind Ukraine (14th).

    I left out Group F, in which Hungary(19th) are in third, so it might help if Finland(35th) could reel them in.
    Last edited by davidatrb; 07/09/2015 at 10:13 PM. Reason: Group F

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    Worth noting that if Denmark lose away to Portugal in their last match, Albania need one win from their last two games to qualify - and join Iceland, Wales and the North.

    They were a minute away from a 0-0 draw against Portugal last night as well, having beaten them in Lisbon.

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    I think that now there is a serious chance that Russia will get 2nd, unless Sweden beat Austria tonight. Russia played some good football on Saturday (though flicking between it and the Dubs match made me realise that such behaviour is poison if you want to watch soccer) and are pumped up. They've 9 points to come now and only a Swedish win tonight means they'll be 2nd. Facing Sweden will not be fun!
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    http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/...5_DOWNLOAD.pdf

    Norway, Slovenia, Turkey are quite close to us in the rankings, what are the chances they'd catch us by the time the draw is made? Is there an outside chance we'd catch Hungary? I've been slaving over the other groups for an hour now but I can't wrap my head around the co-eff system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fionnsci View Post
    http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/...5_DOWNLOAD.pdf

    Norway, Slovenia, Turkey are quite close to us in the rankings, what are the chances they'd catch us by the time the draw is made? Is there an outside chance we'd catch Hungary? I've been slaving over the other groups for an hour now but I can't wrap my head around the co-eff system.
    We will probably need to beat Germany or Poland to stay ahead of Norway because they should win at least one more (they have Malta and Italy to play). A win and loss for Norway would leave them about 26439pts. A draw and loss for us would leave us about 26082pts.

    Turkey have Iceland and Czech to play, we're hoping they win one or whatever it takes to stay ahead of Netherlands,but realistically I don't see them picking up much more co-efficient points than we will (they like us have the two table toppers to play), but if they do then they will pass us. For example if we lose and draw and Turkey win and draw then they will pip us by about 100 pts and be seeded ahead of us.

    Slovenia have Estonia (1/2 favourites tonight - so expecting wins), San Marino and Lithuania to play. They could pick up alot of points - could be quite close. I think three wins gives them about 26241 pts and a loss and a draw gives us 26082 pts (from what I understand from the page http://www.footballseeding.com/national-ranking-uefa/).

    Hungary have Faroes and Greece so I would say no chance of catching them.

    A win against Poland might be absolutely critical to being seeded for the playoff if we make it.

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    Each to own, but I can totally defer all thoughts about play-off possibilities until the play-off berth become a fact.

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    Great to have a few mathematicians on hand too though to give us an idea.

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    Okay last word for now. It is a bit premature, and there are too many permutations to make your head spin even where we want some teams to do well but not too well!

    So simply as it stands now

    Croatia are automatic best placed third place.

    Ukraine (14), Russia (15), Hungary (19) and Ireland (21) would be seeded.
    Turkey (26), Israel (27), Albania (31) and Estonia (38) would be unseeded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidatrb View Post
    According to http://www.footballseeding.com/national-ranking-uefa/ we would currently be ranked 21st in UEFA.

    What we want is for these guys to finish 3rd.

    Group A: Turkey (26th) ,
    Group B: Israel (27th),
    Group E: Estonia (29th) or Slovenia (38th)
    Group H: Norway(23rd)

    Most are already third just need Israel to hold off Bosnia, and Turkey to hold off Netherlands for them both to keep third. Need Croatia to over take Norway and drop Norway into 3rd.

    A little more far fetched would be below, but would also help us be seeded for the playoff draw - if we make it.

    We can also root for Montenegro (32nd) to somehow nip Russia (15th) for 3rd in G.

    In Group C we could hope for Slovakia (24th) to slip behind Ukraine (14th).

    I left out Group F, in which Hungary(19th) are in third, so it might help if Finland(35th) could reel them in.
    I wouldnt want some of those teams as non-seeded where we were seeded!

    I hate the term to "owe" in football but i'd love to see us get one over on Israel, the closest they would ever have been to qualifying in a long long time and we could take that from them :0
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    Not just Israel, Dudu Aouate in particular. (Even if he's retired these days)

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    Worked out the permutations table for the final fixtures in Group D: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog...69679217562629
    Let me know if there's any mistakes
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    "Ireland beat to Germany" isn't grammatically correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    "Ireland beat to Germany" isn't grammatically correct.
    You're not grammatically correct!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Worked out the permutations table for the final fixtures in Group D: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog...69679217562629
    Let me know if there's any mistakes
    I think there is a mistake as we can top, as I posted in the other thread.

    http://foot.ie/threads/203843-Gibral...=1#post1837808

    None of your combination show us topping the group!

    Just realised we can top the group!!!


    Win our last two matches and Georgia get anything in Germany we top the group!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    I think there is a mistake as we can top, as I posted in the other thread.

    http://foot.ie/threads/203843-Gibral...=1#post1837808

    None of your combination show us topping the group!
    he did say before the grid that 2 assumptions were made

    Scotland will be Gibraltar in their final qualifier in Faro (another small typo there in 'be')
    Germany will beat Georgia in their final qualifier in Leipzig

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    19 Germany
    15 Ireland

    So win win for Ireland give us 21 points so Germany must beat Georgia to top the group.

    Germany 22 they win v Georgia and lose to us.
    Ireland 21 we win v Germany and Poland



    Ireland 21 we win v Germany and Poland
    Germany 20 draw v Georgia and lose to us.


    Ireland 21 we win v Germany and Poland
    Germany 19 lose v Georgia and lose to us.

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    Austria 3-0 up in Stockholm. We may have been a little too enthusiastic about that World Cup draw. I know that relative to what we could have got it was still very kind, but they're really starting to look like the stand out team.

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