Really nice and charismatic man. He steadied the ship after Staunton and brought order where there was chaos. I have to say though that that's as good as it got for me, despite the qualification. Bulgaria and Slovakia's implosion opened up second places and we were able to take advantage despite beating neither. We played well against Italy twice, I accept. We got one tough playoff draw and one easier one.
Best away record of any Irish manager, but worst home record too. Too many misunderstandings with players, not enough tinkering with shape and tactics, and when he did he put square pegs in round holes (Keogh & Cox RHM, McClean advanced midfield in Serbia...). I think he's being cheeky claiming credit for "discovering" new players. Everyone on this forum knows who our better players are at all age groups, so a well-paid manager should do the same. He never trusted players with talent and favoured brawn over skill in an era where skill is allowed to thrive.
In an age when GAA and rugby are perceived as being more successful (I stand by my comments that the rugby golden generation vastly underperformed and that "club" rugby and club football are incomparable) Trap has contributed to the impression that football is a dull game and has deterred paying punters.
He's not without his positive points but on balance I'm very glad to see the back of him.
I echo those sentiments.
I will never forget that night in Dalymount v Nottingham Forest and pinching myself looking over at the touchline at the fact that Trap was on the sideline with Tardelli.
I will never ever forget that.
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
I for one am grateful for everything he has done for us, including even considering the job in the first place. I don't know what he will do know, but i would wish him every success in the future, or a long and happy retirement.
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Good riddance at this stage.
Retirement 14 months ago would have left a better impression.
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Yes of of course many will be delighted he has gone expecting things to be a whole lot better, that remains to be seen,
they may well be a whole lot worse, or more likely pretty much the same.
One positive is everyone starts with an un-blotted copybook with the new manager.
Farewell Trap, if you retire and get your own ice cream van I will be happy to stop you and buy one.
(provided they are reasonably priced).
Thanks Trap.
Lets talk about six baby
Ranked 59th in the world after Panama, Wales, Cape Verde Islands and Honduras. Thanks Trap.
Timely reminder there.
What is it with Irish people not wanting to speak ill of the departed.
If I had to pick a memory of his time with us I think it would be Bari and how the Italians were jealous of us. That last 10 or 15 minutes when we were pressing for and getting an equaliser was as good as it got under Trap for me.
I had me 2 year old son with me at the match that night, his first. His last was the Germany game.
My overriding memory of the man is that he steadied a ship that had been steadily sinking since post Korea/Japan and, after Staunton's disastrous reign, he actually reintroduced some revolutionary concepts such as tactics and organisation back into the fold. On a negative note we played dreadful football under his reign without it proving to be particularly effective as it had done under Charlton. He was very slow to realise there were new and better players available to him and his substitutions were dreadful. He was also paid far too much for what he actually achieved.
Very happy to see him go but I thank him for dragging us out of the depths that Staunton had brought us to. I'm not sure we will get someone better but a change is needed.
Last edited by youngirish; 12/09/2013 at 8:12 PM.
I was happy enough with the job he did in the first campaign. Making the team hard to beat. Was hoping the team would play more in his second term but hey wasn't complaining majorly when we qualified for the Euro's. Disappointing really with the way things went after that but it shouldn't entirely overshadow what went before.
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A Championship: 4 years - 8 first teams - 0 financially ruined. First Division '14: 7 first teams.
Opportunity lost for new clubs/regions to join the LoI family.
Some of us think he did a very good job up until a point, that's all. If I thought he was rubbish for the duration of his tenure I would have no hesitation in saying it, whether he be departed, deceased or otherwise.
Can anyone remember who it was that warned us and wasn't happy when Trap was hired? He was a regular poster at the time.
There was definitely an Austrian lad on here who knew about him from his days at Salzburg who stated that we would tire of his negative style and tactics. He seemed to be of the opinion that many fans were happy with him leaving Salzburg though I can't remember if he was a fan himself or not.
Anyone got Traps competitive record goals for & against?
I've done a google search but I just keep getting his overall record.
and what happened to them yesterday??
nobody is happy about how things ended but if an Irish supporter cant bring themself to thank trap for drawing with the world champions home and away in wc qualification, italy friendly win, paris, euros qualification, unbeaten away record until the last etc then you'd have to ask if they really care about how we do.
he had us up to 18th at one stage. did you give him credit for that the same way you blame him for where we are now?
Last edited by jbyrne; 13/09/2013 at 12:47 PM.
A man who will be remembered for whom he didn't play rather than for whom he played. I am not sure there has been such a devisive split among Irish supporters since or indeed before Saipan.
I was amused by some supporters around me in Vienna on Tuesday screaming for the introduction of Brady, the Hull City winger who was to be our saviour. Bit by bit he introduced the players the fans demanded and bit by bit our results got worse. Wilson was responsible for the goal in Vienna - remember what a world beater he was going to be. McLean was the next George Best. I can still see McCarthy trailing in the wake of Alaba in that game and the hugely maligned Green holding the midfield together. The Norwich sub Hoolahan, the failed Premiership player Andy Reid and the stayaway Ireland would make us the great team we should be or better at least. Perhaps and we shall see under the new manager but to me his tenureship will be remembered for Paris, qualification, the unbeaten away run and the endless debate on whom he left out.
Should he have left after Poland (following a near-miss and qualification) ? It would have been bizarre if he did despite the three defeats in the tournament. Apparently we not only had to qualify but also do well at the tournaments among the elite of Europe. A very tough ask. However, 90% of managers have a sell by date and few survive 3 campaigns and so it was with Trap.
His style of football didn't bother me one iota provided it brought results. It was used as a stick to beat him with by the media and some fans but a manager's job is to get his team playing the way he wants it and that he did and selected his players around that style. My regret is that he didn't know how to adapt it for home games but then he wasn't the first Irish manager to fail in that regard. I am also sorry that he caused so much division in the Irish football community.
So he has gone and I believe history will judge that he was a success. But he is now history and let's get on and support the next manager even if, God forbid, he is --- ----- !
p.s. Goodbye Manuela as well xx
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
didnt stop 40,000 of them going to Poland to support his team though!
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