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Thread: Republic of Ireland V Sweden - Friday, 6th September 2013 - World Cup 2014 Qualifier

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    Quote Originally Posted by gastric View Post
    Would have to say that Kelly makes some very valid points in this article.


    http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-29549849.html
    I've never seen the words vituperative nor quixotic in a football article before. Has David Kelly been using a thesaurus?!
    "If God had meant football to be played in the air, he'd have put grass in the sky." Brian Clough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakermaker1982 View Post
    I've never seen the words vituperative nor quixotic in a football article before. Has David Kelly been using a thesaurus?!
    Are they alcoholic drinks or some sort of pills or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakermaker1982 View Post
    I've never seen the words vituperative nor quixotic in a football article before. Has David Kelly been using a thesaurus?!
    No he swallowed one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    It was mentioned a few pages back.



    I'd be very surprised if McCarthy is fighting a relegation battle come the end of the season. I know it was under Moyes, but Everton have been a top-half club for the past couple of seasons, if I'm not mistaken. They've made a decent start to this season (no losses out of three) and certainly don't resemble prospective relegation fodder.
    Is Kelly a bitter Liverpool fan? Everton have finished above Liverpool for the last 2 seasons and have been top 8 in 9 of the last 11 seasons. They are also 1 of only 3 teams unbeaten in the current season and have a far superior squad compared to last season.

    It remains to be seen how far Martinez can take them. The Moyes myth is surely nearly gone by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Which is pretty much what I said!

    ArdeeBhoy has been stating Kelly's key point far more directly all along (even allowing for superfluous punctualtion, italics and emoticons!). We're boring, unadventurous and hard to watch unless you're a loyal fan. It will cost us.
    Tbf many of us do that!


    Seriously though, even am going to both games genuinely believe we have no chance of winning either.
    Austria at a pinch but firmly believe we're not good enough. Sorry.

    And whoever comes 2nd FIFA will 'arrange' they miss out anyways.

    Tis a shame but sh*t happens;maybe 2026...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Tbf many of us do that!


    Seriously though, even am going to both games genuinely believe we have no chance of winning either.
    Austria at a pinch but firmly believe we're not good enough. Sorry.

    And whoever comes 2nd FIFA will 'arrange' they miss out anyways.

    Tis a shame but sh*t happens;maybe 2026...
    On a slightly different note (but related to the torture I'm prepared to put myself through) but does anyone know where the game might be streamed live on Friday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    On a slightly different note (but related to the torture I'm prepared to put myself through) but does anyone know where the game might be streamed live on Friday?
    Plenty of links will appear on these sites before the game:

    http://www.footballstreaming.info/st...nks/index.html
    http://www.lshunter.net/
    http://www.wiziwig.tv/competition.ph...pline=football

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Cheers Danny.

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    We'll show up and do our best. My expectations are low. Draw with Sweden and likely lose in Austria and that's that. Start planning for the every expanding Euros in 2016 with a new coach and new staff. Hope some new players continue to develop and start again. Sure it's part of the fun of it all.
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    Is the game likely to sell out? I had a look on Ticketmaster and there were still loads available all around the ground. One of the lads I'm travelling with even has two spares.

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    Def not a sell out. FAI have been emailing block bookers offering extra tickets.

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    After watching that Dublin-Kerry match have to admit that it is hard to get hyped up for this one.
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    Then eff off to a GAA forum. I enjoyed watching the Dubs win but would have got over it soon enough if they lost. I'll be ecstatic if we win the football and gutted if we lose. It's a September international in a neck and neck group, against a regular qualifier but a team we could beat. If you can't get excited by this then Trap really has caused a lot of damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Then eff off to a GAA forum. I enjoyed watching the Dubs win but would have got over it soon enough if they lost. I'll be ecstatic if we win the football and gutted if we lose. It's a September international in a neck and neck group, against a regular qualifier but a team we could beat. If you can't get excited by this then Trap really has caused a lot of damage.
    And he has. Not that I entirely blame him (I do see a lot of merit with his tactics). However, the ham fisted way the FAI have conducted themselves over the years does take the sheen of the national team. They've created a sense of "them v. us" in a very small supporter base. An exciting game like Sunday's does make one wish that Irish football had that spark back again. Noting that doesn't make me any less of a fan than anyone else on these boards.
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    Fair enough and the Dublin Kerry game was a thriller, albeit full of unsophisticated rough and tumble and **** eyed finishing. I just don't see how a pivotal clash against a good team doesn't whet the appetite, regardless of what the FAI has done but I admit its probably a big ask for a Trap managed team to have the place rocking. A "spark" is the last thing you'd say this team has, but it does have good players with good attitudes and maybe it takes a game like this for that spark to return.

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    For me, GAA, even rugby will always be colloquial, it kills me to see them put ahead "International" football in the food chain... Football is truly a world game. That's why the Irish football team means so much to me - it carries a greater weight.

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    If Glenn Whelan morphs into Roy Keane for 90 minutes on Friday Night then LR will be rocking. Over to you Glenn....

    Up to the players now. Obviously if the Trap plays Cox in the left wing he won't be helping matters but if Keane takes his chances, O'Shea stays alert for 90 minutes, McCarthy & Whelan get at least parity in midfield then 3 points is there for the taking. Sweden are a decent side but if the players perform it is a winnable game. A draw should not be viewed as an excellent result.

    If Keane is firing on all cylinders (sounds like he is in the U S of A) then let's at least give him the chance to put the ball in the net. 1 chance, 1 nil, job done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grafter View Post
    For me, GAA, even rugby will always be colloquial, it kills me to see them put ahead "International" football in the food chain... Football is truly a world game. That's why the Irish football team means so much to me - it carries a greater weight.
    Couldn't agree more, Grafter. I'd be delighted with 3 points on friday even if, via some kind of sports-restricted butterfly effect or the intervention of a hard-bargaining genie or demon, it meant Cork taking a hammering from Clare the following sunday. No comparison at all in terms of satisfaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Fair enough and the Dublin Kerry game was a thriller, albeit full of unsophisticated rough and tumble and **** eyed finishing. I just don't see how a pivotal clash against a good team doesn't whet the appetite, regardless of what the FAI has done but I admit its probably a big ask for a Trap managed team to have the place rocking. A "spark" is the last thing you'd say this team has, but it does have good players with good attitudes and maybe it takes a game like this for that spark to return.
    I do often think it looks primitive at times, and there needs to be a proper defined tackle, this open hand thing is a load of crap really, its taken from basketball but it doesn't work as its meant to. I also think Hurling can look awful when you see "6 lads with sticks" belting the ground, but actually its just one of those things that from the sideline looks primitive but to be able actually do it on the field is completely different. I also notice that for people foreign to the sport these are the things they seem to enjoy most.
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    There is a bit of apathy in the country towards the soccer/football team and that is down to Trap's awfully conservative and sometimes barmy tactics (Cox on the wing, no place for Hoolahan, sticking to 4-4-2 doggedly). We do not play very attractive football and haven't since the McCarthy era, or the Kerr era in friendlies.

    But if we win tomorrow you'll see a huge interest in the national team again.
    People are fickle.
    Go into work tomorrow and discuss it and you'll hear lads saying 'Ireland are $hite, we'll never qualify'
    If we win tomorrow night you'll hear the same people saying what a great game it was and 'meself and herself always wanted a holiday in Rio'
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