Limerick Desmond League 2013/14

**fanaticfan** · 24/03/2014, 10:06 PM

Thursday 27th March
Weekly Observer Premier Division League Cup Quarter Final (extra time & penalties)
Abbeyfeale Utd V Newcastle West 730 (P. O�Connor)

Sunday 30th March
Weekly Observer Desmond Cup 3rd Round (extra time & penalties)
Shountrade V Pallaskenry 1100 (S. Hartnett)
Rathkeale V Athea Utd 1130 (P. O�Brien)
Knockaderry V Feenagh 1130 (C. Dalton)
Creeves Celtic V Rockhill Rovers 1130 (J. Molyneaux)
Abbeyfeale Utd B V Rathkeale B 230 (E. Barrett)

Weekly Observer Division 2 League Cup Quarter Final (extra time & penalties)
Granagh Utd V Kilcornan 230 (J. Molyneaux)

Weekly Observer Premier Division
Glin Rovers V Ballingarry 1130 (J. Roche)
Broadford Utd V Shannonside FC 1130 (T. Fitzmaurice)

Weekly Observer Division 1
St. Itas V Kildimo Utd 1130 (P. King)
Breska Rovers V Killeaney 1130 (P. Manning)
Glantine V Old Mill 1130 (D. Wallace)

Weekly Observer Division 2
Ballysteen V Newcastle West B 230 (P. O�Brien)
Athea Utd B V Ferry Rangers 230 (B. Nash)

Weekly Observer Division 3
Shannonside FC B V Creeves Celtic B 230 in Shanagolden (P. O�Donnell)
Feenagh B V Newcastle West Rovers B 230 (D. Wallace)
St. Itas B V Broadford Utd B 230 in Broadford (C. Dalton)

Weekly Observer Division 3 League Cup Group B (90 min)
Carrig Celtic B V Ballingarry B 2pm (J. Roche)

Friday 4th April
Reidy Cup Final (extra time & penalties)
Feenagh V Newcastle West Rovers 730, Clounreask

Saturday 5th April
Youths Division 2 League Cup Final (extra time & penalties)
Creeves Celtic V Rathkeale 230, Clounreask
Youths Division 3 League Cup Final (extra time & penalties)
Ferry Rangers V Pallaskenry 530,Clounreask

**Horan01** · 25/03/2014, 6:25 AM

Originally Posted by Magpie75

Just to clarify a few things regarding NCW AFC. There has been no proof of any NCW player throwing stones at an opposition player or a referee. Some poor judgement from a couple of B Team player bad mouthing a ref has occurred and the club was fined 100 euro (which it paid) by the Desmond League. The reason that all NCW games were called off last weekend was because the refs themselves felt that the fine from the Desmond league wasn't severe enough and refused to ref NCW AFC games because of it. This is now an issue between the Desmond League and the refs and NCW AFC players are suffering because of it. I firmly believe that refs (good or bad) should always be shown respect because we have no game without them but I feel that the action they took last weekend was over the top.

The Desmond League have lost one of the best refs in the league as a result of all this carry on, Donie O'Gorman resigned last Friday, he felt very strongly about this incident and was disgusted with how the DL have handled it. €200 fine reduced down to €100 on appeal, bit of a soft fine if whats being reported did actually happen. Hopefully it gets sorted soon. Refs down for this weekends games so might be alright.

**fourfour3** · 25/03/2014, 8:18 AM

magpie 75 i would agree with you that it hasn't been proven but why would referees make this up.donie o'gorman has retired on the strength of it.just seems odd this kind of reaction from the refs if its only verbal abuse.i'm sure they've heard all that before.

**fanaticfan** · 25/03/2014, 9:42 AM

Donie o gorman has retired?? Best referee in the league for years and it was proven when he was the referee in the fai junior cup final few years back...

**Johnnie C** · 25/03/2014, 1:26 PM

I was at the Feenagh v NCW B game. The stones were thrown at the Feenagh dressing room (container), narrowly missing a few lads who were standing beside it. The ref got a lot of abuse as he left the field, particularly from one guy who followed him nearly as far as the gate to the road, same guy was also roaring at Feenagh players and spectators. At the corresponding game in NCW earlier in the season, stones were thrown at the ref's vehicle as he left. Surprised it has taken this long for things to come to a head with this team, as quite a number of them have being trying to intimidate refs and opposition players for a number of seasons now.

**ferry_ranger** · 25/03/2014, 2:39 PM

Originally Posted by Johnnie C

I was at the Feenagh v NCW B game. The stones were thrown at the Feenagh dressing room (container), narrowly missing a few lads who were standing beside it. The ref got a lot of abuse as he left the field, particularly from one guy who followed him nearly as far as the gate to the road, same guy was also roaring at Feenagh players and spectators. At the corresponding game in NCW earlier in the season, stones were thrown at the ref's vehicle as he left. Surprised it has taken this long for things to come to a head with this team, as quite a number of them have being trying to intimidate refs and opposition players for a number of seasons now.

I suppose it doesn't matter a whole pile but any idea what it was all over? What was the final score of that game?

**fanaticfan** · 25/03/2014, 5:56 PM

Were ye not playing ncw the weekend ferry ranger?? Were they up to their same tricks haha

**Have It** · 26/03/2014, 2:10 AM

Originally Posted by fanaticfan

Donie o gorman has retired?? Best referee in the league for years and it was proven when he was the referee in the fai junior cup final few years back...

Agreed, Donie is one of the finest refs around and well respected by players,managers and supporters. An awful disgrace it has come to this.

**ferry_ranger** · 26/03/2014, 8:35 AM

Originally Posted by fanaticfan

Were ye not playing ncw the weekend ferry ranger?? Were they up to their same tricks haha

Yep Ferry played them, I wasn't at it myself but heard it went off without any bust ups or fighting anyway! If the above is true and stones and were thrown then a 100euro fine is farcical.

**sexyfootball** · 26/03/2014, 8:54 AM

Is that true about Donie O'Gorman? What a shame if it is, in fairness hes a great ref! Must have been pretty terrible what happened, for him to take such a drastic step.

**Johnnie C** · 26/03/2014, 9:52 AM

I suppose it doesn't matter a whole pile but any idea what it was all over? What was the final score of that game?

Feenagh player got injured, ball kicked out, ball kicked back to NCW keeper, Feenagh player ran towards keeper, wouldn't have stopped his clearance though, before he got any way near the keeper he was manhandled to the ground, free kick awarded to Feenagh which they scored from to leave final score 2-2.

**sexyfootball** · 26/03/2014, 10:27 AM

Sure why was he running towards the keeper?? I know there's no rule but sportsmanship dictates, you pass the ball back, clap, play on! I can see why the N.C.W players weren't best pleased but by the sounds of it the ref had no option but to award the free kick... hardly his fault.
This will rumble on for a while yet! Will it have any effect on the Hogan Cup Final? 3 officials and all that...

**fanaticfan** · 26/03/2014, 10:41 AM

I agree with you there sexyfootball. Shouldn't have ran towards the keeper if the ball was kicked out for an injured feenagh but as sexyfootball said the referee had to give the free kick if the player was fouled . Why would it have an effect on the hogan cup final?

**Johnnie C** · 26/03/2014, 11:07 AM

Sure why was he running towards the keeper?? I know there's no rule but sportsmanship dictates, you pass the ball back, clap, play on! I can see why the N.C.W players weren't best pleased but by the sounds of it the ref had no option but to award the free kick... hardly his fault.
This will rumble on for a while yet! Will it have any effect on the Hogan Cup Final? 3 officials and all that...

As you said, ref was completely blameless, had to give a free. As I said, the Feenagh player wasn't going to impede the keeper's clearance, he was running at the keeper from an angle when he was dragged down.

**jackass** · 26/03/2014, 1:37 PM

The ball past 2 ncw defenders who could have got it if they tried but were wasting time so he had every right to go for it

**sexyfootball** · 26/03/2014, 2:20 PM

The only reason I mentioned the Hogan Cup final is N.C.W. are in it, will there be any issue with regards to officials? There's usually 4 for finals isn't there? Maybe some of them may feel like sticking by there fellow referee Donie O'Gorman, or has the issue re refs been resolved?
I know the refs aren't always right or even mediocre in some cases...!! But as Magpie said without them we'd have no games. They deserve some bit of respect from players and if incidents like this reoccur I wouldn't blame any man for walking away!

**Horan01** · 28/03/2014, 6:25 AM

Originally Posted by sexyfootball

The only reason I mentioned the Hogan Cup final is N.C.W. are in it, will there be any issue with regards to officials? There's usually 4 for finals isn't there? Maybe some of them may feel like sticking by there fellow referee Donie O'Gorman, or has the issue re refs been resolved?

I wouldn't say the issue has been resolved, the DL are still investigating the Feenagh inisident but the referee's have been told by their board that they cannot boycott games so like they did last weekend they will continue to ref the games from here on in. They also have a meeting tonight between themselves and their hoping they can get Donie O'Gorman to change his mind, that remains to be seen.