QuoteHave we? Don't remember, but it's one of my pet hates, so not shocked.Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
We've had this discussion on the board before, and most people at the time knew it was about Salford. Still, we'd expect you to know, eh?
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We've had this discussion on the board before, and most people at the time knew it was about Salford. Still, we'd expect you to know, eh?
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Have we? Don't remember, but it's one of my pet hates, so not shocked.We've had this discussion on the board before, and most people at the time knew it was about Salford. Still, we'd expect you to know, eh?
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Anyone else not notice the sickening hypocrisy in giving this man a passport in an attempt to save his life but allowing us troops to use Shannon?Mr . Bigley is a capitalist who was makin a tidy profit from the murder his country commited on the ordinary people of Iraq
Two wrongs don't make a right!
Have Boot Disk, will travel
Will the process of expediting a passport be forever known as "doing a Bigley"
Who is this guy, Trapper Tony?
1. Whose votes are the Irish government seeking here? The Irish abroad? 'Plastics' like myself who've never obtained citizenship of another country except Ireland? The Bigleys? In case you haven't noticed, no Irish citizen living outside Ireland gets a vote...on anything!
2. What would you think of a country that WOULDN'T help the child of one of its citizens? And as someone from the DFA said yesterday to an ITV reporter, he's Irish anyway in the eyes of the Irish state, just as much as if he'd been born in Ireland prior to this year's referendum to foreign parents and moved abroad the moment he burped. He just needs to fill out a passport application like anyone else, which in this case he's litterally too tied up to do. So he has a British passport? Wasn't his father British or aren't Irish people allowed to marry foreigners. And a 'capitalist'?
3. As for this referendum, I don't see there being any moratorium on applications for Irish citizenship from those born in Ireland with foreign parents. As Connor74 said on the debate we had, there should be more to nationality than where a woman's waters happened to burst.
4. Biggest export after Dell computers? It used to be people that were the Ireland's biggest export. Thanks to that not minute part of Irish history, we have the Bigley's of the world.
5. Tipperary? A London brothel? Tell me more!
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Best man to ask about those place's Ahhh Kid is yer favourite Manchester PLC'S new multi million pound teenager, and the star of euro 2004 (so the press tell us), he know's a thing or two about those place's, and also he'll be able to tell yer which member's of staff have grand kid's.
Its crazy to see people be what society wants them to be but not me.
1) The Government are responding to pressure put on them from home (eg They weren't too keen to help until Michael D got involved) and the brother being on TV and Radio appealing for help. Also helps to spread the lie that we're neutral and weren't involved in the war.
2) To me, the whole Irish angle was a last resort. It suddenly "occured" to them that their mam was irish, and use this as a possible lead. Don't blame them to use any means possible, but lets not make this into a "plastics" debate.
3) There should also be more to nationality than it being beneficial in a certain situation.
4) Different people, different circumstances. Not every Irish abroad was left with no option but to go abroad.
5) Aye, popular with Soldiers about to depart to war apparently
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Well I was suprised about the 'neutral' angle (or as it is termed on this side of the pond 'staunchley neutral). However, the initial pressure must have had to start somewhere - I didn't know his mother was Irish (I think I couldn't face watching an elderly woman beg for her son's life on TV) - and my point is that I can't see whose votes are to be garnered. Any Irish government would have responded in the same way (I hope).
I dare say it was. Think I'd be pleased with a British passport if it helped me come home with my head still attached to the rest of my body. Bigley is first and foremost British which considering his father is/was British and he was born and brought up in Britain is quite understandable.Some people will argue that Bigley being granted this passport - which he was always entitled to - is cheapening nationality. I would argue that granting citizenship on the mere basis of someone's birth to someone unnconected with Ireland, just for the person's parents to jump the queue in gaining access to the EU is also cheapening citizenship. I still believe that people exempted from citizenship at birth will be able to acquire it after a set ammount of time if they are living in Ireland legally (whatever the government and the people term this to be).
Can't remember the last time I saw someone 'just off the boat' in London. Also the cirulation of Irish newspapers in Britain is in decline, all of which are looking to expand into the 2G market. As I'm a regular down the RISSC meetings all new members I meet have been here since the mid nineties. I'm not saying there still isn't emigration (they're emigrating here from Japan and the US), but I would suggest that now there is quite a bit of work in Ireland the figures are in favour of people going the other way from Britain
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