Tipp South & District League 2013/14

**bishbash** · 01/08/2013, 5:14 PM

Originally Posted by stelling

"If my best mate wasn't a heroin addict he could have won gold in 100m in olympics".....how many times have we all heard that one, he was a sub against kilbarrack and in all the big games because there were simply better players available to Karl and Kenny,you can be sure there are players at Saints/Town and Celtic who are poor trainers but are in the first 11 because they are too good to leave out,that's part and parcel of junior football

If he trained he would have been a regular. He doesn't have a desire to do well, it will be interesting to see how long he even lasts. "IF" he got his head down & worked hard for himself & the team then there are few better anywhere, unfortunately he never will do as he likes the booze to much and is far to lazy to really ever do anything. Unfortunate as he has the ability but he's wasted it.

**stelling** · 01/08/2013, 5:55 PM

Originally Posted by bishbash

If he trained he would have been a regular. He doesn't have a desire to do well, it will be interesting to see how long he even lasts. "IF" he got his head down & worked hard for himself & the team then there are few better anywhere, unfortunately he never will do as he likes the booze to much and is far to lazy to really ever do anything. Unfortunate as he has the ability but he's wasted it.

Desire is an attribute the same as being good in the air, pace etc...if you spoke to players in all 5 divisions they would tell you about players who could play at higher level "IF" they wanted it more, IF is the biggest word in the english language, players are where they are due to ability,hunger and desire to represent themselves well, certain lads prefer the easy way out and have lads tell them how good they could have been....drink up lads...drink up

**bishbash** · 01/08/2013, 6:18 PM

Originally Posted by stelling

Desire is an attribute the same as being good in the air, pace etc...if you spoke to players in all 5 divisions they would tell you about players who could play at higher level "IF" they wanted it more, IF is the biggest word in the english language, players are where they are due to ability,hunger and desire to represent themselves well, certain lads prefer the easy way out and have lads tell them how good they could have been....drink up lads...drink up

I disagree, ordinary players with very limited "ability" can show desire and achieve something. Desire is more of a character trait than an ability. Ability is something that certain players have, some more so than others. Paddy Wack has bags of ability, but essentially it's the same end result as he doesn't have the desire to make the most of it. The reason he won't be a regular Is that there are players there that can be trusted to give everything in every game. Not because they are better players but because they have better attitudes. As I highlighted myself "IF" his attitude changed there are not many better around. However it 99% certainly won't. Can he be an asset from the bench, possibly so.

**Coconuts** · 01/08/2013, 9:07 PM

Let talk about more serious stuff hear like funny jokes only messing 😃. When ate the fixtures out does any1 know?

**West Hammer** · 01/08/2013, 9:46 PM

Fixtures for 24/25 August should be on website 13th or 14th August.

**stelling** · 01/08/2013, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by bishbash

I disagree, ordinary players with very limited "ability" can show desire and achieve something. Desire is more of a character trait than an ability. Ability is something that certain players have, some more so than others. Paddy Wack has bags of ability, but essentially it's the same end result as he doesn't have the desire to make the most of it. The reason he won't be a regular Is that there are players there that can be trusted to give everything in every game. Not because they are better players but because they have better attitudes. As I highlighted myself "IF" his attitude changed there are not many better around. However it 99% certainly won't. Can he be an asset from the bench, possibly so.

I can see what your saying but i think desire and dedication are all part of the make up of a player, don't remember wack ever being an oscar traynor player or outscoring paul kennedy when celtic were not winning trophies, he's a decent player, pa quinn, o hara, moroney all better players, best of luck to Celtic for the season

**celticlads** · 02/08/2013, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by stelling

"If my best mate wasn't a heroin addict he could have won gold in 100m in olympics".....how many times have we all heard that one, he was a sub against kilbarrack and in all the big games because there were simply better players available to Karl and Kenny,you can be sure there are players at Saints/Town and Celtic who are poor trainers but are in the first 11 because they are too good to leave out,that's part and parcel of junior football

In my opinion no player is too good to be left out of a side, if you don't bother training you shouldn't be picked its not fair to the lads who are committed and will only cause hassle in the long run

**stelling** · 02/08/2013, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by celticlads

In my opinion no player is too good to be left out of a side, if you don't bother training you shouldn't be picked its not fair to the lads who are committed and will only cause hassle in the long run

That's lovely in theory but it's not realistic in junior football....for example if Chawky Walsh is caught with work for 6 weeks and can't train and its FAI Quarter final weekend and Munster Semi the week after you drop him because he couldn't train?

**celticlads** · 02/08/2013, 4:50 PM

Originally Posted by stelling

That's lovely in theory but it's not realistic in junior football....for example if Chawky Walsh is caught with work for 6 weeks and can't train and its FAI Quarter final weekend and Munster Semi the week after you drop him because he couldn't train?

No you took me up wrong, of course allowances can be made for work or holidays etc but my point was about the lad that doesnt bother training cause he'd rather drink or do other things, these lads should be left out at the expense of a less talented player that gives you his all week in week out.

**stelling** · 03/08/2013, 4:27 AM

Originally Posted by celticlads

No you took me up wrong, of course allowances can be made for work or holidays etc but my point was about the lad that doesnt bother training cause he'd rather drink or do other things, these lads should be left out at the expense of a less talented player that gives you his all week in week out.

I agree completely,I wouldn't have those kind of guys around at all

**Redman028** · 03/08/2013, 3:31 PM

Originally Posted by celticlads

No you took me up wrong, of course allowances can be made for work or holidays etc but my point was about the lad that doesnt bother training cause he'd rather drink or do other things, these lads should be left out at the expense of a less talented player that gives you his all week in week out.

I have to agree with Celticlads , Players are not professional and need to work , go away on courses , study etc. Allowances should be and probably are made at most clubs for things like that. Its the lads that go drinking , watch champions league and stay in on the couch when its cold and raining that are the plague of a lot of clubs. And im sure it happens at every club , the buck stops with the manager and if you have a strong enough character there he should be able to deal with it but unfortunately for some clubs the panel isnt always strong enough and the players that take the p#ss often continue to get away with it

**stelling** · 03/08/2013, 6:57 PM

Originally Posted by Redman028

I have to agree with Celticlads , Players are not professional and need to work , go away on courses , study etc. Allowances should be and probably are made at most clubs for things like that. Its the lads that go drinking , watch champions league and stay in on the couch when its cold and raining that are the plague of a lot of clubs. And im sure it happens at every club , the buck stops with the manager and if you have a strong enough character there he should be able to deal with it but unfortunately for some clubs the panel isnt always strong enough and the players that take the p#ss often continue to get away with it

Sure that is exactly what I have been saying,whether people agree or disagree with it panels are never strong enough to leave out the top guys but in the case of Karl and Kenny they had better players available so left wack o donnell out of all the big games

**biglad101** · 03/08/2013, 8:04 PM

Least theres a discussion goin on if you could call it that, this thread was very quite good to see people back posting. As far as wack goes no one can deny he's a great finisher if he just put a shift in everything would be fine. Dunno how Karl and Kenny will keep everyone happy Moroney, O Hara, Wack, Kennedy nice to have them 4 plus Evan and Dwanye serious attack.

**celticlads** · 03/08/2013, 9:15 PM

heard celtic beat clough 4-1 today, anyone know team and scorers?

**Coconuts** · 07/08/2013, 12:18 PM

Anymore more pre season results lads? I'm a Cahir park man so in looking to see how the premier league teams are shaping up so far.

**biglad101** · 10/08/2013, 10:08 AM

Any transfer news for premier teams season only two weeks away now think Michaels or Celtic will win it and bridge and glengoole to go down.

**balls** · 10/08/2013, 6:31 PM

Glengoole will struggle and between Cahir and bridge for other relegation spot. Both have lost a couple of there better players. Celtic may start as slight favourites but expect big challenge from saints on all fronts this season. Really good additions brought into saints squad and look to have cover for all positions this season. Any word when fixtures are out

**hotspur** · 11/08/2013, 5:50 AM

Originally Posted by balls

Glengoole will struggle and between Cahir and bridge for other relegation spot. Both have lost a couple of there better players. Celtic may start as slight favourites but expect big challenge from saints on all fronts this season. Really good additions brought into saints squad and look to have cover for all positions this season. Any word when fixtures are out

Who have they brought in besides the limerick lads.and where is Brian Buckley going to play.with walsh and breen the two centre halves.?

**complexman** · 11/08/2013, 8:59 AM

How did Celtic get on in the final of that tournament in Kilkenny

**balls** · 11/08/2013, 9:06 AM

Saints signed I believe 2 keepers, Colin Bargary is back aswell, Darren lynch an Irish cap from cork aul side park united. As well as few lads from limerick you might be able to name limerick lads for us hotspur I'm not 100% on names yet