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    Quote Originally Posted by don't panic View Post
    Hibs gone,some might say that they are 'gone to pot'
    harsh but probally gone to pot since xmas .

    " football is a simple game "

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    Quote Originally Posted by old git View Post
    strange you said that as the word is james carraig ( cags) taking over again next year ?
    I doubt that didn't he leave on bad terms last time.. alot of lads won't play for him I'd say.. he would be a good man for the job.. then again the bous who stood in this since xmas have done well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Second View Post
    I doubt that didn't he leave on bad terms last time.. alot of lads won't play for him I'd say.. he would be a good man for the job.. then again the bous who stood in this since xmas have done well
    did he not leave last time due to health problems ?? be plenty of rumours of managers & players moving /leaving our the next few weeks

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    Heard there was a lot of trouble in Shannon last night. A small contingent of so called moyross fans caused havoc. Pity as it seems to have taken the gloss of moyross title

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    Quote Originally Posted by don't panic View Post
    Heard there was a lot of trouble in Shannon last night. A small contingent of so called moyross fans caused havoc. Pity as it seems to have taken the gloss of moyross title
    three bus loads of supporters came out and party atmosphere with drums etc ,, but a few so called supporters let them down . londis shop had a few unwelcome visitors and also one lad mugged at knife-point ?? pity as a magnificent season for moyross to finish as champions and promotion to premier league

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    Quote Originally Posted by old git View Post
    three bus loads of supporters came out and party atmosphere with drums etc ,, but a few so called supporters let them down . londis shop had a few unwelcome visitors and also one lad mugged at knife-point ?? pity as a magnificent season for moyross to finish as champions and promotion to premier league
    Moyross supporters = scumbags.. who goes to an away match with a knife only a group of knackers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Second View Post
    Moyross supporters = scumbags.. who goes to an away match with a knife only a group of knackers.
    These lads have left moyross down after such a great season for them, great support showed up at the game only for a few lads to cause havoc, 1 lad held 3 young lads at knife point, he has been caught by the guards thankfully. Well done to Moyross and Knockainey for getting promoted!

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    Originally thought second was being a bit harsh, but find myself agreeing with him. Yet again we see a small minority of people tarnishing moyross and moyross fc reputation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by don't panic View Post
    Originally thought second was being a bit harsh, but find myself agreeing with him. Yet again we see a small minority of people tarnishing moyross and moyross fc reputation.
    I know a few of the moyross lads and they are gents but no need to do that stuff..

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    well done moyross,great season but tarnished throughout with tales like above.

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    Very bad season for hibs in the end. Wonder what will happen in the summer and who they can get in to turn things around, or will they amalgamate with Shannon town

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    Here we go again, amalgamation talk. It will never happen as I can never see shannon town give up the name and all of a sudden the name is a sticking point to the same people who discarded their own identities only 7 years ago

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    Shannon town seem to be having success at underage level so cant see why they would want to join up as eventually more kids will just move clubs anyway..

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    At this stage, it should have its own thread, but I'll post here anyway. Football in Shannon ? Number of Clubs in Shannon ? History of all clubs and so much more. Football in Shannon, in general is not in a great place.

    There's no doubting that many people involved in all the clubs work hard for their club's success, but what is success for a junior club in Shannon ? I wouldn't imagine that any of the clubs have ever sat down and decided on what they see as success, I don't mean trivial success such as league or cup wins, I mean real success - where the club is going, how it's going there and what's needed for it to happen. Is it the right thing for football in Shannon.

    Shannon needs a maximum of 2 clubs, 1 playing in the Clare League and 1 playing in the Limerick League. 1 club would be ideal, but it will never happen. The most common sense thing that could happen is for Shannon Town and Shannon Hibs to amalgamate, put aside their small differences and really come together for the betterment of football in the Town. The practical side of things would be easy to resolve, club name, club colours and so on, but only if both clubs are agreed on the same path forward. People spout off statistics about the population of Shannon and that it can sustain more then 1 club, more than 2 and so on, but just look at the recent season, Shannon Town struggled for numbers at various times during the season, as did hibs - which ultimately meant they amalgamated their b team to the 1st team, Hibs relegated and Town had a very poor season.

    People need to sit in a room, put their bias aside and really talk through the issues, concerns and/or pros of an amalgamation. The history of the clubs could be maintained and sustained much easier as a single unit, as opposed to the current set-up... ie neither club having a top dressing room/club house set-up that can truly show their clubs history. Why not one club house that shows it all, that everyone can be proud of and shows that Shannon as a town can be progressive when it comes to sport.

    One club, especially for underage teams would help the community and would help young people from all over Shannon to come together and play for the club.

    Yes it would be difficult, but anything worth doing is normally difficult, but the end result would be for the betterment of everyone. There's a lot more that needs to be said, that needs to be talked about, but without people wanting real change, then nothing will happen. Narrow minded people will stop this happening becuase they can't see the bigger picture, they just focus on their own little patch, and that's all they care about.

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    Although under age success is nice, a club with a weak junior set up will never be judged as successful. And at the moment both Hibs and town are weak junior teams. Also all towns recent success is division 1 level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by don't panic View Post
    Although under age success is nice, a club with a weak junior set up will never be judged as successful. And at the moment both Hibs and town are weak junior teams. Also all towns recent success is division 1 level.
    agree. if the successful teams at underage stay together till they are junior players and succeed there it would be great, however its most likely they go to the best junior team locally with some possibly heading into town.

    also agree that Shannon town would not 'give up the name' , maybe because they hold a good hand with hibs not doing to well, however hibs have the best facilities. amalgamation is the way to go for the future of football in Shannon! for those who care about their 'little patch' and not for what is best for the young players of Shannon, hold out against any amalgamation

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    Quote Originally Posted by don't panic View Post
    Although under age success is nice, a club with a weak junior set up will never be judged as successful. And at the moment both Hibs and town are weak junior teams. Also all towns recent success is division 1 level.
    I dont think it really matters what division the kids are in as winning is a habit and means kids are having fun and enjoying football. Plus in fairness shannon wouldn't have the pick of some of the bigger clubs in town..
    For what its worth I do think both clubs should join forces
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    Quote Originally Posted by Second View Post
    I dont think it really matters what division the kids are in as winning is a habit and means kids are having fun and enjoying football. Plus in fairness shannon wouldn't have the pick of some of the bigger clubs in town..
    For what its worth I do think both clubs should join forces
    NOW is the perfect time for the two clubs to amalgamate. Probably won't. They should push for another meeting like before to discuss it again..

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    Any time you speak to committee members from both clubs, they all say they are in favor of amalgamation. Didn't Gerard Kelly say on here a while back that he was working for it?. However, nothing ever gets done. Don't agree with statements that committee members on both sides are only looking after their own patches, hard working people in both clubs who never get the credit they deserve.

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    ''also agree that Shannon town would not 'give up the name' , maybe because they hold a good hand with hibs not doing to well, however hibs have the best facilities. amalgamation is the way to go for the future of football in Shannon! for those who care about their 'little patch' and not for what is best for the young players of Shannon, hold out against any amalgamation''

    People missing the point, it's not about who has the upper hand, who keeps the name, or any of that crap. If done properly, everybody (within reason) can be kept happy.
    A joint name is the only answer, every second team have the Shannon Town colours and every second team having the hibs colours - register Home and Away colours and keep them as the current colours for each club. eg: u10's wear Town colours, 12's Hibs, 14's Town, 16's etc etc A Team Play season one in Town colours, B Team in Hibs and vice versa there after. It's not about the colours, it's about the crest and the betterment of football in all areas.
    Amalgamate the crests - get someone creative to design it (surely amongst all the contacts, this could be achieved).

    A meeting should be held and people should say what's on their minds, pros/cons worries, keep the emotion out of it - the emotion comes from the smaller things, but they cloud over the bigger picture.
    Would love for it to happen - if done right, but unfortunately can't see it happening.... Have a meeting and take the first step.

    Shannon Town Hibernian - 1 Club, 1 Goal

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