Limerick Division 1A 2013/14

**Hibs7772** · 10/12/2013, 2:41 PM

Originally Posted by Senna

Hibs 7772 is it true the management and half the players have left?? Things not looking good down there

Gunner has left that's all that I know of. What players have apparently left?

**fifty50** · 10/12/2013, 2:42 PM

Heard a lot of players on the move from both clubs

**Hibs7772** · 10/12/2013, 2:44 PM

Originally Posted by fifty50

Heard a lot of players on the move from both clubs

Any names?

**the lobster** · 10/12/2013, 2:52 PM

Originally Posted by fifty50

Heard a lot of players on the move from both clubs

That just sums up Shannon Junior Football.

**DSMALL1** · 10/12/2013, 3:05 PM

No loyalty, going gets tough ...
On another note, who in your oppinion are the best 11 footballers in Shannon not playing at the moment that could quiet easily help these two teams out?
And i still dont think that the best eleven players in Shannon would get promotion out of 1A and stabilise the club in the premier????

**the lobster** · 10/12/2013, 3:22 PM

Originally Posted by DSMALL1

No loyalty, going gets tough ...
On another note, who in your oppinion are the best 11 footballers in Shannon not playing at the moment that could quiet easily help these two teams out?
And i still dont think that the best eleven players in Shannon would get promotion out of 1A and stabilise the club in the premier????

How about the players show up on a sunday and then the problem might go away, No idea who are the best 11 in shannon,

**Second** · 10/12/2013, 3:33 PM

Originally Posted by DSMALL1

No loyalty, going gets tough ...
On another note, who in your oppinion are the best 11 footballers in Shannon not playing at the moment that could quiet easily help these two teams out?
And i still dont think that the best eleven players in Shannon would get promotion out of 1A and stabilise the club in the premier????

Whats wrong with darcy and o connell for town..

**Shuffleruns** · 10/12/2013, 4:02 PM

Originally Posted by DSMALL1

And i still dont think that the best eleven players in Shannon would get promotion out of 1A and stabilise the club in the premier????

Let me know when that happens!! I'd happily play football for a Shannon club then

**Two Feet Up** · 10/12/2013, 7:53 PM

Originally Posted by the lobster

Yes you are correct about the mess left behind and not asking the players from previous year to sign, Only god knows what the thinking behind this was. I'm not a committee member but i wouldn't put the blame on them, I know that the committee did ask why players were not asked to sign and advised both manager and assistant to go chasing but again god only know what went on after that, Unfortunately Clubs are viewed by how their Junior teams are doing in competitions both league and cup, but the thing is Shannon Hibs have more teams than their A/ B teams and its unfair to view the Club from just Junior teams.

I would have thought the committee would know the managers plans before they put him in position or would it have been a case, well nobody else wants it??

it is all great as saying there are more teams than your A or b team, but you have to remember that your A team is your flagship. No point in having a cracking underage set up only for the teams to break up after youths ?

I am sure all involved, managers, players, committee have a role in this mess. Interesting but very tough times for hibs ahead methinks and they will do well to starve off relegation. not much in it at the bottom and Newport will fancy their chances after their great result the weekend to leapfrog hibs, especially with the uncertainty surrounding hibs

**gaisc�och** · 10/12/2013, 9:31 PM

Originally Posted by gaisc�och

Christ on a bike. What is going on at these clubs. Lads keeping their options open? Playing for different teams to see what it's like? Managers are worse for accepting it. What a load of rubbish. You wonder why there will be no success in Shannon football for the foreseeable future? That's it in a nutshell. Average players with no passion swanning around to other clubs trying to massage their egos. I applaud any any manager who won't accept it.
As for Shannon hibs and the youth approach. Looking at the teams in 1a this season it's the wrong time to have a weak spine to the team. Shannon town build a strong powerful side and add in the footballers. Hibs go for over haul and make too many changes too soon.
Having young lads is fine but I wonder now that most of them are at the age will they be going to college and finding the drink interest could soon be down the drain if they have a bad start.

I hate to say but I had a feeling this would happen. There was a core group of players who had been there for 4-5 years and this was dismantled to bring in these young lads. Who have ultimately let the club and team and manager down. I think the amalgamation has been to the detriment of the both clubs. Sad to say but why when neither club could get together strong youth teams did they figure it would all magically be fixed by joining the clubs together to over time create a stronger A team. It hasn't it's a complete disaster. It's no better than before they amalgamated. Sure they have a few extra underage teams but I really cannot see it baring fruit. Very disappointed for both clubs to have folded and now be in position where they have to dispense of the B team to try keep it all afloat. It's a mess a complete mess.

**old git** · 10/12/2013, 9:42 PM

Originally Posted by the lobster

Some of the B-team lads are more than capable in playing 1a football and should start ahead of the part time a-team players. If we take a step back and look at the table, Hibs are maybe 6 to 10 points away from safety in my opinion and should stay in 1a this year. I'm sure that is the objective, The b-team unfortunately had to be compromised but saying that they themselves were in real trouble of relegation. As i said in earlier post, none give anything back to Shannon Hibs so until that was to change i'd get rid of them all. Lucky i'm not in charge heh.

lobster

a team were in probally more danger of relegation than the b team and b team a couple of wins of moving onto tails of leaders if they could get best 11 on the pitch

**Second** · 10/12/2013, 9:47 PM

Originally Posted by old git

lobster

a team were in probally more danger of relegation than the b team and b team a couple of wins of moving onto tails of leaders if they could get best 11 on the pitch

Old git alot of ifs and buts there .. I think what has happened is the best thing for hibs.. the B team only had 9 players for there last game so not all that rosie there either

**old git** · 10/12/2013, 9:47 PM

Originally Posted by Second

I heard Ryan Kelly jumped ship he did same a few years ago with town..what is wrong with players these days..it seems that between A and B team they had around 15/16 committed players but with gunner gone I cant see many of the A players staying so club will be back in trouble again soon..

ryan Kelly if I am correct here has not finished a season with the same team in the last couple of years .. loyalty is well gone these days players may have no choice but to stay if memberships not paid club will not let players transfer. Also were will they go if they wont put it in for hibs will Shannon town / Olympic take them ?

**old git** · 10/12/2013, 9:51 PM

Originally Posted by Second

Old git alot of ifs and buts there .. I think what has happened is the best thing for hibs.. the B team only had 9 players for there last game so not all that rosie there either

hence why I said if they could get best 11 on the pitch .. but will agree it looks the best solution for the club at the moment I only hope all the players will stick it out and try and do there best for hibs for the rest of the season

**old git** · 10/12/2013, 9:57 PM

Originally Posted by gaisc�och

I hate to say but I had a feeling this would happen. There was a core group of players who had been there for 4-5 years and this was dismantled to bring in these young lads. Who have ultimately let the club and team and manager down. I think the amalgamation has been to the detriment of the both clubs. Sad to say but why when neither club could get together strong youth teams did they figure it would all magically be fixed by joining the clubs together to over time create a stronger A team. It hasn't it's a complete disaster. It's no better than before they amalgamated. Sure they have a few extra underage teams but I really cannot see it baring fruit. Very disappointed for both clubs to have folded and now be in position where they have to dispense of the B team to try keep it all afloat. It's a mess a complete mess.

gaiscioch

it looks a complete mess alright but does this sum up Shannon soccer also .. behind all the hibs meltdown .. local rivals town a only 1 point ahead of them after a heavy defeat last weekend and Olympic doing well but only feeding of players leaving hibs or town and who don't tend to stick around to long

**Second** · 10/12/2013, 10:50 PM

Town seem to be struggling with results but players seem to keep turning up.both A and B teams seem to have good numbers turning up..

**old git** · 10/12/2013, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by Second

Town seem to be struggling with results but players seem to keep turning up.both A and B teams seem to have good numbers turning up..

good to see they are getting bodies turning up but what is the quality like if they are struggling to get results no use having big squads if a lot of the players not up to it ..

**Second** · 11/12/2013, 6:30 AM

Originally Posted by old git

good to see they are getting bodies turning up but what is the quality like if they are struggling to get results no use having big squads if a lot of the players not up to it ..

I watched 1st half of there game sunday and they had decent team out 1. Aherne 2 mccarty 3 o connell 4 hogan 5 some foreign dude 6 darcy 7 burke 8 glynn 9 kelly 10 o connell 11 carew had 5 subs too griffen regan flaherty mccarthy and another Foreign lad . Couldnt believe they lost 5-1 as was 1 nil to caherdavin when I left just before half time..

**Two Feet Up** · 11/12/2013, 7:36 AM

Originally Posted by old git

lobster

a team were in probally more danger of relegation than the b team and b team a couple of wins of moving onto tails of leaders if they could get best 11 on the pitch

don't if the league tables are accurate but the hibs b team struggling also 4 pts off relegation and 16 off promotion. will the b player who have only 4 wins in 3a be able to cope in 1a? time will tell

The hibs amalgamation has been a disaster In fairness. Club have lost their identity and still no better. I think its time for one club in Shannon but too many egos trying to hold onto clubs names/history rather than for the better of football in shannon

**the lobster** · 11/12/2013, 7:51 AM

Originally Posted by Two Feet Up

I would have thought the committee would know the managers plans before they put him in position or would it have been a case, well nobody else wants it??

it is all great as saying there are more teams than your A or b team, but you have to remember that your A team is your flagship. No point in having a cracking underage set up only for the teams to break up after youths ?

I am sure all involved, managers, players, committee have a role in this mess. Interesting but very tough times for hibs ahead methinks and they will do well to starve off relegation. not much in it at the bottom and Newport will fancy their chances after their great result the weekend to leapfrog hibs, especially with the uncertainty surrounding hibs

Not sure if it was a case that no one else wanted it. But Gunner did want it and only he knows why he decided not to ask players to sign, its a big question that has and probably never will be answered.

Can't agree with you on the point you make about no point in having a great school boy set up if the junior teams are bad. That doesn't make sence, Is it ok to have a bad school boy set up if the Juniors are great? I'm comfused.... At the moment Hibs school boy teams under11 / 14 / 15 & 16 are all in the premier divisions in Limerick, a B-team in 3a, 4 points off relegation and an A-team in 1a struggling like never before, their 7s/8s and 9s are going well. so it is not all doom and gloom at Hibs, just unfortunate that a Club is looked at how their Junior teams are doing.

Anyway, alot of players once they turn 17/18 are not worth the time and effort put in by Clubs, they give NOTHING BACK only hassle. Thats not me imagining it, its fact