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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    There has definitely been a regression in the standard of the playing pool available. Not sure if it is entirely borne out by the fact that we are not much above half the number of PL players of ten years ago.

    If you look at the 2011/2012 list, there are players who would definitely struggle to get into the PL today. The quality there has improved and, as a result, as has the quality at Championship level. There are plenty in there that somehow managed to get a look in at Premier League level that would not today and, in many cases, their career trajectories have shown that.

    This is slightly less evident in the class of 2009/2010, but Jay O'Shea, Lawrence, Folan and Andy Keogh do not get into a present day top half Championship side, let alone get brought up to the Premier League should said side get promoted. Nor does a Premier League side purchase them. Cox and Sammon from the 2011/2012 class struck me similarly and I don't think Forde, Carruthers or Harriman were near the same standard as our other teenage debutants from this year and last.

    Overall, I definitely agree with your point. But if you look at the young players getting their Premier League debuts, the money spent when Championship players sign for a Premier League club and the quality of the squads at the promoted sides this year I think it becomes apparent that Wigan buying Conor Sammon or Andy Keogh being promoted with and kept by Wolves does not occur today.
    I actually think Liam Lawrence was a decent quality player that lacked a bit of pace whether that was due to injuries or not ~ I don’t know.

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    I would agree with a lot of that. I think you will always get a few players getting game time at that level though who turn out to not be good enough in the long run. We may look back at this year's list in a few years and be amazed that someone like Jimmy Dunne (or Lewis Richards if he gets minutes) played premier League depending on how their careers turn out. I would guess that those lists probably include a few players who got a run out near the end of the season in mid table teams that had little to play for, which can often top up the numbers late in the season.

    In terms of qualification for tournaments my own belief is that we're going to have to ride out the next two years - we don't currently have a good enough team and the world cup qualification process is too difficult for us at our current level.

    However, after that we're looking at another 24 team Euros in 2024 and from the 2026 world cup onwards there should be at least 16 European qualifiers so, as the standard of our squad hopefully improves, it should be timed nicely alongside the World Cup becoming at least a little easier to qualify for and the continuation of the 24 team Euros.

    Anyway, since this is the Randolph thread, any news on Fabianski's injury?
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    https://www.claretandhugh.info/fabianski-update-2/

    Fabianski expected to return for the next game, according to this.

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    Started against City today. Might have been a bit better for the City goal.

    Just gone over on his ankle taking a goal kick and may have to come off. Seems to hurt himself taking goal kicks a lot.

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    Difficult to fault him on either goal, in my view. The first one he might have done better with but the ball was sublime and Stones almost got to it before Dias. Between coming for it, thinking Stones might get it or whatever else he was thinking, he wasn't perfectly positioned for Dias and that is true. Difficult to blame him for it I think.

    The ankle was a funny one. He stayed on the pitch for the entire a game and the commentators said that the third choice keeper was warming up for the rest of the match after Randolph got injured.

    Hopefully it doesn't cost him any games if Fabianski is out again.

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    Randolph was named in West Ham's U23 side but had to be replaced before kick off

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