Not to talk about Brazil but if we ever did make it, the who's in who's out debate by then could really burn this place down.
No Somos muchos pero estamos locos.
Back four were solid. I have to admit, and I'm the first to critizie O'Shea because I don't think he should be anywhere near the team. But on this occassion he was competent. Long may it continue.Originally Posted by Fixer82
Also regarding Green and McCarthy, I don't think Green is the answer to our midfield woes but he did have a good game the other night (I think Hoolahan should be there with McCarthy). However, can we take it that the Whelan / Andrews axis is now over? I certainly hope so.
Not to mention Trap's 2 year contract extension Crosby.
Last edited by Stuttgart88; 24/03/2013 at 8:07 PM.
Good point. We're all talking about how Trap pulled off a masterstroke. But did he really. If he had his way, Whelan would have been in instead of Green. And he did have his way on Hoolahan, and look what happened. We missed Wes's brilliance for 75 minutes. So Trap's decisions in using certain players is still way way off the mark.
I think Andrews would probably replace Green if he came back. And we still don't know what Trap will do about Whelan/McCarthy on Tuesday.
Without Robbie on the pitch, the chances of winning a penalty are greatly diminished.
Yeah but that's balance out by the fact that with Coleman on the pitch, the chances of conceding a penalty are also greatly diminished.
MArk played in the LOI.
No Somos muchos pero estamos locos.
What's the betting the auld fool will stick Whelan back in? No thanks.
I'd say it's still 50/50 but it would be ahead of Green. There was something very different about the performance in Sweden - Green was doing a straight screening job but McCarthy was pressing much further forward than I've seen even Andrews doing. In fact, the only time I saw Andrews do it was in Paris. Trap knows Whelan's lack of mobility means he couldn't do the same job.
Just copied out a pile of stats, unfortunately if does not display very well as you need to scroll.
http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252...ague-2012-2013
offensive
Code:R Name Team Pos Apps G A SpG KP Drb F Off Dis Trn Rt 78 Seamus Coleman Everton D( 15(2) - 4 0.4 1.1 0.9 1.3 - 1.1 0.9 6.99 139 Glenn Whelan Stoke M(C) 27(1) - 4 0.7 1.1 0.1 0.7 - 0.8 0.6 6.84 143 Ciaran Clark Aston Villa 28 1 - 0.5 - 0.1 0.3 - 0.3 0.4 6.83 144 James McCarthy Wigan M(CL) 29 2 1 1 0.9 0.6 1.3 - 0.7 0.7 6.83 169 John O'Shea Sunderland 26 1 - 0.3 0.2 0.1 0.4 - 0.1 0.1 6.75 170 Shane Long West Bromwich 19(7) 6 4 1.3 0.8 0.3 1.6 0.5 1.4 1.8 6.75 184 Jonathan WaltersStoke 30 6 1 1.6 1 0.4 1.5 0.6 1.7 2 6.71 203 Wes Hoolahan Norwich AM(C) 23(4) 3 2 0.9 1.4 1.1 1.3 0.3 2.5 1.8 6.65 207 James McClean Sunderland 18(10) 2 2 1.1 0.8 0.9 0.8 - 1.7 1.5 6.63 defensive R Name Team Pos Apps Tackle I F OW Clr Drb BS OG Rt 78 Seamus Coleman Everton D(R) 15(2) 2.1 1.8 0.8 0.1 2.2 0.2 0.2 - 6.99 139 Glenn Whelan Stoke M(C) 27(1) 1.8 2 1 - 2 1.4 0.5 - 6.84 143 Ciaran Clark Aston Villa(C) 28 1.4 2.4 1.1 0.8 11.7 0.4 1.1 - 6.83 144 James McCarthy Wigan M(CL) 29 2.9 1.9 1.1 - 1.8 1.2 0.4 - 6.83 169 John O'Shea Sunderland 26 1.3 1.9 0.8 0.4 7.5 0.5 0.6 - 6.75 170 Shane Long West Bromwic 19(7) 1 0.2 1.4 - 0.5 0.3 0.2 - 6.75 184 Jonathan Walters Stoke 30 0.9 0.8 1.1 - 1.5 0.3 - 2 6.71 203 Wes Hoolahan Norwich AM(C) 23(4) 1.3 0.8 0.3 - 0.1 0.9 - - 6.65 207 James McClean Sunderland 18(10) 2.4 0.8 1.2 - 0.6 1 0.2 - 6.63 passing R Name Team Pos Apps A KP Avg P PS% C LB TB Rt 78 Seamus Coleman Everton D(R) 15(2) 4 1.1 28.9 80.7 1.1 1.1 - 6.99 139 Glenn Whelan Stoke M(C) 27(1) 4 1.1 40.3 81 1.3 3.4 0.1 6.84 143 Ciaran Clark Aston Villa 28 - - 28 80.6 - 1.8 - 6.83 144 James McCarthy Wigan M(CL) 29 1 0.9 59 88.2 0.1 4.7 - 6.83 169 John O'Shea Sunderland 26 - 0.2 29.2 76.2 - 2.3 - 6.75 170 Shane Long West Bromwich 19(7) 4 0.8 14.6 69.7 0.3 0.5 - 6.75 184 Jonathan Walters Stoke 30 1 1 27.5 68.2 0.5 0.1 0.1 6.71 203 Wes Hoolahan Norwich AM(C) 23(4) 2 1.4 34.6 84.2 0.7 1.1 0.2 6.65 207 James McClean Sunderland 18(10) 2 0.8 20.6 79.5 0.5 0.5 - 6.63
Key in order mentioned if appearing twice.
SpG shots per game, KP Key Passes Drb succcessful dribbles F was fouled Dis dispossed Trn turnovers
T tackles made I interceptions F fouls commited OW offsides won Drb was dribbled BS blocked shots OG own goal
A assists KP key passes Avg P average passes per game PS% pass percentage completed
C crosses per game LB long balls (\accurate) TB through balls.
Last edited by tricky_colour; 24/03/2013 at 11:50 PM.
Arthur all due respect but you will not be happy until Ireland doesn't Qualify so you can hire the next manager, I guess.
No Somos muchos pero estamos locos.
Whelan to start instead of Green and bizarrely Sammon to replace Keane.
http://www.thesun.ie/irishsol/homepa...le-in-SOS.html Don't agree with either decision. I would have picked Hoolahan to replace Keane and started Green alongside McCarthy
Forgive me for being sceptical about an article that includes the phrase "an OMG call".
Good lord don't let it be true....
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Have faith in Trap. He knows more about football than all of us put together. In qualifiers, we have only lost to France, Russia, and Germany under his supervision. Not bad for a manager who has such a crap panel of players to put a team together from. No, Sammon isn't a household name like Doyle but perhaps Trap might know something about the Austrian team that we don't? Remember his masterstroke of putting Caleb Folan on against Italy?
Agreeing once again with Stu.
If Sammon & Whelan play, he might as well throw in McShane & Ward for the full set of jokers...
Done a good job in away games, but you have to win at home.
Even if we sneak a victory tomorrow, September is as full of as many potential banana skins, if not before...
And when we're over run and the players are caught out of position and the team is humiliated again........
I'd sooner he put him on against Austria too, if the choice was between Folan and Sammon. Assuming Caleb isn't too tied up being...prime minister of Nepal or whatever it is he's at these days.
Who can say what may transpire but Dan McD in the Indo is going with a similar line to the Sun's OMG.
sammon-set-to-fill-keane-void
the quote from Trap
"We would have to change, and put Sammon or Cox with (Shane) Long," said the Ireland boss, before then making a stronger statement with regard to the Derby newcomer. "Sammon is picked with Long, Sammon is to be with Long."
plus Dan says
Trapattoni confirmed that the returning Glenn Whelan will partner James McCarthy in central midfield with Paul Green dropping out.
Kevin Doyle is a decent cover for ....Sammon.
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