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    Quote Originally Posted by Junior
    Giggs, IMO has never consistently produced the goods. He has produced it on enough occasions over the last 10 years to compete with KK for a spot in our first 11!!. Me think it is you who is throwing around the crazy ****e!
    I am a Man Utd fan

    Giggs has been living off the goal he scored in the FA cup semi against arsenal with five years, United should have cashed in when Inter offered £25million. He still can't bloody cross the ball properly either and he always takes on one man too many.

    But he'd still start ahead of Kilbane and Reid
    Duff would be better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    Andy Reid and Damien Duff are better players for Ireland than Giggs is for Wales. They would get in ahead of him everytime. Forget about Giggs in his glory days. They were 5/6 years ago. Stop living in the past.
    I don't. I'd have Duffer or Reid ahead of Giggs now myself, but that's because of my green-and-white blinkers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    Typical Celtic fans. Not only can they not pronounce the word "Celtic" correctly nor can they spell the word "boys" correctly but they're obsessed with history. Why don't we revert back to the days when N Ireland were the powerhouse on the Emerald Isle. I may have blinkers on but you guys are facing backwards.
    I fear Brian Quinn, DD and the members of our board are. I don't really see any ambition to move on from where we were when Larsson left. Anyway, you'll have to do better than that. Show me an Irishman who isn't in some way constrained by history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    Andy Reid and Damien Duff are better players for Ireland than Giggs is for Wales.
    If Giggs was Irish he wouldn't have had to play for Wales. If he was Irish I am 99.9% sure he'd be in the team. Same goes for Hartson, I just can't see Morrison keeping him out of the team. Remember, we are all biased towards Irish player, we just can't help it, so if Hartson was Irish you'd certainly have different views whether your anti-Celticness likes it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
    I fear Brian Quinn, DD and the members of our board are. I don't really see any ambition to move on from where we were when Larsson left.
    I can see at least £10m available to O'Neill if not at Christmas, next summer. When O'Neill took over he was given £27m to spend in his first 2 seasons, since then (3 summer windows) he has spent less than £5m on 6 players. Since O'Neill took over Celtic have gotten over £10m from players out. Add the fact that he has reduced the wage bill a lot by releasing players like Johnson, Rieper, Stubbs, Wieghorst, Moravcik, Kharin, Rafael, Gould, Boyd, Guppy, Larsson, Mjallby all on free transfers. Then you have other younger lads like Miller, Doyle, Healy, Smith, Crainey and Goodwin. The sales of Viduka, Riseth, Burchill, Berkovik, Tebily would also have got a big chunk of wages off the bill. Even with the signings, the wage bill is definitely reduced by millions annually and there's still the likes of Lambert, Hedman, Petta and Fernandez to be released in the summer.

    Also, a new Nike deal of at the very least £25m (the club also gets royalties for every jersey sold, etc, which was not the case with Umbro) over 5 years is to start next season (its suprisingly more than Liverpool's £40m over 10 years with Nike).

    There will be $$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy
    so if Hartson was Irish you'd certainly have different views whether your anti-Celticness likes it or not.
    It's got nothing to do with Celtic.
    He's just not a great player, hence his retirement to the SPL at such an early age.
    I'm simply not a fan of Celtic or the SPL, and never have been.
    That's it, no hidden agenda.
    Last edited by Peadar; 22/09/2004 at 1:54 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by norn_iron_healy
    Yes we all are still over the moon with a point against wales. Everyone had it down as wales strolling it!!

    We got a point away, in one of the best stadiums in the world with 60 odd thousand welsh fans.
    And we should of had three

    -Wales is about three times the size of NI

    -No matter what you say they are a good side Bellamy, Giggs, Speed, Earnshaw, Hartson, Savage. I would say they are better than u lot!

    -We are not a pub side!! At least are best players have a club that will play them.

    OK I hold my hand's up, when I read yer post I thought you were one of Marty's posse from ourweewebsite, i've read yer other post's and I accept that your not on the wind up and you can certainly talk about football, which is something those lad's can't.
    The pub team jibe , well yer fellow Norn Iron fan's do describe us as begger's, which I can't say offend's me personally, but there's alway's going to be jibe's back if thing's like that are going to be said about us.
    Still yer sound like a decent bloke and have brought out some not to bad disscussion's.
    Its crazy to see people be what society wants them to be but not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    Typical Celtic fans. Not only can they not pronounce the word "Celtic" correctly nor can they spell the word "boys" correctly but they're obsessed with history...
    To be pedantic it is the spelling of Celtic that is wrong or its pronunciation. C before E is always pronounced as an S in the English language. If you want to pronounce Celtic as a C then it must be spelt with a K. As for B-hoys, wasn't that taken from the way Donegal migrants to Glasgow who picked up an enforced language without the aid of a supplied education, pronounced young males. Oh dear, living in the past again, I know.
    This is the cooooooooooooolest footy forum I've ever seen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJamaicanP.M.
    As for Wales, they are not in the same class as us. They have their best generation of players in decades, yet they merely qualified for the play-offs
    Aye, totally meaningless achievement that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    It's got nothing to do with Celtic.
    He's just not a great player, hence his retirement to the SPL at such an early age.
    That is rubbish. A club will want to get the most money for a player if he's available for sale. If Celtic or Rangers are the highest bidder they'll allow that player discuss personal terms (they don't have to tell the player about any other bids). Arveldaze was Ajax's top scorer with 25 goals, fell out with the coach and was sold to Rangers. Champions league winner Klos actually paid a contribution to Dortmund to buy out his contract so he could play for Rangers. Prso rejected Monaco for Rangers. Boumsong rejected a load of clubs for Rangers. Thats just the players from Rangers that come to mind. If you think there are no great players in the SPL you are seriously mad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lopez
    C before E is always pronounced as an S in the English language.
    Is Celtic an English word?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy
    Arveldaze was Ajax's top scorer with 25 goals, fell out with the coach and was sold to Rangers. Champions league winner Klos actually paid a contribution to Dortmund to buy out his contract so he could play for Rangers. Prso rejected Monaco for Rangers. Boumsong rejected a load of clubs for Rangers. Thats just the players from Rangers that come to mind. If you think there are no great players in the SPL you are seriously mad.
    I know Rangers have great players, it's Celtic I'm talking about.
    Hartson wouldn't get into the Rangers team either.
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    well with myself being irish i perferrable pronounce it 'Keltic' with a hard 'c' sound. the soft 'c' sound comes from the english mentality of being superior. since numerous languages within europe have a latin based root or are heavily influenced by the language in the english language case, the english decided that they spoke better latin than anybody else and set it upon themselves to pronounce certain words with a soft 'c'. seltic and keltic is an example of this happening.

    http://www.faqfarm.com/History/Irish/21710

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    I know Rangers have great players, it's Celtic I'm talking about.
    Hartson wouldn't get into the Rangers team either.
    The main reason I didn't mention any Celtic players was to get a response like that. You've slipped up mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy
    The main reason I didn't mention any Celtic players was to get a response like that. You've slipped up mate.
    Hardly!
    You just couldn't apply your point to Celtic.
    You also can't dispute that Hartson isn't good enough to get into the Rangers team.
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    Here fishy fishy II...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    You also can't dispute that Hartson isn't good enough to get into the Rangers team.
    http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=164144&postcount=51

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
    If you were in Finsbury Park last Saturday you would have seen that I'm very, very serious indeed!
    I leave the jokes to the jokers!
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    Firstly hartson signed for rangers but failed his medical a few years back.

    Secondly whats this "........WE........" paleface?!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    Hardly!
    Of course you have, you are either:

    1. Trolling (I don't really mind if you're trolling, I love getting the better of a troll )
    2. Your anti-Celtic bias has got the better of you.

    Remember you said "this has nothing to do with Celtic" and a player cannot be great if he moves to the SPL at an early age. What did you then say in your next post "I know Rangers have great players, it's Celtic I'm talking about".

    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    You also can't dispute that Hartson isn't good enough to get into the Rangers team.
    Old Firm scorers this season in the SPL:
    1. Hartson (Celtic): 6 - 40% of his team's goals.
    2. Thompson (Celtic): 3 - 20% of teams.
    2. Camara (Celtic): 3 - 20% of teams.
    2. Prso (Rangers): 3 - 33.3% of teams.
    5. Arveldze (Rangers): 2 - 22.2% of teams.
    5. Hughes (Rangers): 2 - 22.2%.
    7. Sutton (Celtic): 1 - 6.7%.
    7. McNamara (Celtic): 1 - 6.7%.
    7. Petrov (Celtic): 1 - 6.7%.
    7. Lovenkrands (Rangers): 1 - 11.1%.
    7. Boumsong (Rangers): 1 - 11.1%.
    1,000. Novo (Rangers): 0

    Rangers have yet to score an away goal while Hartson has 5 away goals. I'm pretty sure he'd make their team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy
    Remember you said "this has nothing to do with Celtic" and a player cannot be great if he moves to the SPL at an early age. What did you then say in your next post "I know Rangers have great players, it's Celtic I'm talking about".

    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    He's just not a great player, hence his retirement to the SPL at such an early age.
    Compare what I've said and what you've suggested I've said.
    I don't know enough about Rangers to actually say if their players were in good condition when they signed.
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    "He's just not a great player, hence his retirement to the SPL at such an early age."

    The first part, "he's just not a great player" is OK if its your actual opinion but the second part is nonsense as there have been a load of great players join the SPL at an early age.

    The quote suggests to me that if you join the SPL at a young age then you're not great.

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