2013 Attendances

**Macy** · 30/04/2013, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Jofspring

Usually most off the drop off is because people go into the season optimistic and if after a few games its not going how they imagined they start to pick and choose the matches they do attend. People are just too fickle.

I'm not so sure tbh. The good/better weather may be better to attend in, but it also leads to more competition imo, from non football activities (such as family days out and holidays, farm work, GAA etc etc). iirc the pattern of attendances has been to drop for the summer, and then pick up again in the Autumn. If it was fickle fans and optimism getting dashed, there wouldn't be the recovery at the end of the season - as the season goes on more supporters/ clubs see nothing left to play for.

There needs to be proper analysis of attendees to try and establish the facts. It may be the summer season has no impact, or maybe it does, but no other change should be made (like the switch to summer was done) on a whim and guesses.

**fionnsci** · 30/04/2013, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by bullit

Jaysus,sorry if i offended you.Not like me to be offending people.Again realy, realy,realy,realy sorry for any offense caused.

Not offended, just think it would stand to you to lose the attitude.

**nigel-harps1954** · 30/04/2013, 1:56 PM

Midweek games added:

PREMIER DIVISION

Bohs - 1,703 (1,496; 1,488; 1,835; 2,366; 1,993; 1,924; 1,463; 1,976)
Bray - 710 (965; 1,121; 952; 1,169; 1,106; 1,200; 1,027; 1,550)
Cork - 2,361 (2,786; 2,128 FD; 1,693 FD; 2,681; 3,142; 2,897; 2,941; 3,644)
Derry - 1,577 (1,460; 2,135; 1,965 FD; 2,436; 3,363; 2,614; 3,229; 2,698)
Drogheda - 723 (977; 811; 859; 1,106; 1,631; 1,919; 1,751; 1,682)
Dundalk - 1,898 (949; 1,355; 1,877; 2,371; 1,459 FD; 1,406 FD; 1,078 FD; 474 FD)
Limerick - 2,473 (734 FD; 569 FD; 598 FD; 429 FD; 517 FD; 670 FD; 364 FD; 669 FD)
Pat's - 1,412 (1,474; 1,346; 1,756; 1,631; 1,795; 1,910; 1,342; 1,599)
Rovers - 3,200 (3,127; 3,779; 3,794; 3,611; 1,468; 1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539)
Shels - 1,295 (1,187; 781 FD; 737 FD; 972 FD; 986 FD; 888 FD; 1,690; 1,949)
Sligo - 2,541 (3,007; 2,103; 1,807; 1,756; 1,960; 1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD)
UCD - 539 (506; 558; 610; 272 FD; 546; 663; 546; 653; 306 FD)

FIRST DIVISION

Athlone - 437 (271; 200; 354; 462; 387; 670; 421; 316)
Cobh - 614 (2008 - 1,122 PD; 681; 368; 403; 240)
Harps - 664 (429; 433; 644; 480; 1,607 PD; 1,164; 428; 1,347 PD; 1,106) -
Longford - 385 (365; 315; 230; 260; 406; 885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD)
Mervue - 289 (243; 349; 123; 166)
Salthill Devon - 113 (182; 125; 122)
Waterford - 439 (453; 466; 619; 434; 670; 1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD)
Wexford - 246 (302; 216; 343; 494; 767; 810)

PREMIER AVERAGE: 1,701 (1,630; 1,547; 1,512; 2,010; 1,746; 1,687; 1,535; 1,759)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 400 (372; 578; 682; 417; 641; 722; 570; 520)

OVERALL AVERAGE: 1,050 (1,101; 1,110; 1,095; 1,175; 1,221; 1,235; 1,070; 1,195)

TOTAL WEEKLY ATTENDANCE: Two games: 1,684.
OVERALL ATTENDANCE: 114,855.

**Spudulika** · 02/05/2013, 5:31 PM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

???
Not for the first time, I am perplexed by your reply!

You said this originally-

I ask you to tell us what these "ways" are in your opinion.

Maybe you were just spoofing or these "ways" are highly confidential commercial secrets!

Ezekial, since you've a vested interest, there are ways to find out, simple as that. The story regarding Dundalk was very simple, 2 years ago I (with our company) was asked about assisting finding a buyer for the club. When this was put in place, with plans etc, despite the oddly growing costs and debts, and caveats and add ons, the deal was being pushed until there was nothing, right after a business plan was sent in. So, pardon me for being a little dubious.

Not spoofing at all, if you contact me directly you can get the catalogue with completed projects etc. Simple as that.

**bullit** · 03/05/2013, 1:16 AM

Originally Posted by fionnsci

Not offended, just think it would stand to you to lose the attitude.

Ok.

**bullit** · 03/05/2013, 3:50 AM

Originally Posted by MariborKev

At what point did I say it was a silver bullet?

I merely questioned if LOI clubs had a proper assessment of the media value of their exposure and were they including this in negotiations with sponsors, in order to offset the loss of revenue from falling gates due to TV against sponsorship values.

Throw out your iideas on that sure,i'm sure we here at blollix Dundalk will be able to comprehend all that you great mind has to say.

**Dalymountrower** · 03/05/2013, 8:42 AM

Originally Posted by bullit

Throw out your iideas on that sure,i'm sure we here at blollix Dundalk will be able to comprehend all that you great mind has to say.

This might surprise you, Bull--it,but not everything posted on this Forum is directed at your club. A reasonable question was posed as to whether clubs are maximising other revenue streams from live TV coverage given that most clubs suffer a loss in crowd receipts ( Bohs drop aprox 4-500 from what would be expected if a particular game is not televised)
So, for example, are clubs going out to businesses who don`t usually support them and asking them how much would they pay for 90 minutes of advertising on a Friday evening on RTE2.

**Mr A** · 03/05/2013, 9:39 AM

The best example I recall of this was Galway United in a televised game when they sold off back of shirt sponsorship for each player. It was a cup semi final against Longford away I think and a tidy sum was made.

There no reason that sponsors couldn't buy the opportunity to erect some massively prominent advertising in some empty part of the stadium for one night when the cameras are there. And I think every club should be looking to get bonus clauses in their deals with main sponsor for every live game they appear in.

**avvenalaf** · 03/05/2013, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Mr A

The best example I recall of this was Galway United in a televised game when they sold off back of shirt sponsorship for each player. It was a cup semi final against Longford away I think and a tidy sum was made.

There no reason that sponsors couldn't buy the opportunity to erect some massively prominent advertising in some empty part of the stadium for one night when the cameras are there. And I think every club should be looking to get bonus clauses in their deals with main sponsor for every live game they appear in.

Best example and Galway United in the same sentence? Hmmm.........

**oriel** · 03/05/2013, 12:12 PM

I hear Drogs are doing a family event for their game tonight v Bohs. I hope it works out for them after the events of last Sat night in Sligo.

**adamd164** · 03/05/2013, 9:19 PM

2118 at Cork City v Pats.

**nigel-harps1954** · 03/05/2013, 9:24 PM

735 at Shels v UCD
1,000 Bray v Dundalk (estimate)

**bullit** · 03/05/2013, 9:33 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

1,000 Bray v Dundalk (estimate)

700/750 i'd say,Dundalk took near 400.Bit of sun for the Lilywhite fans

**nigel-harps1954** · 03/05/2013, 10:49 PM

1,000 estimate in Drogheda.
3,000 estimate in Tallaght.

**dundalkfc10** · 03/05/2013, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

735 at Shels v UCD
1,000 Bray v Dundalk (estimate)

We easily had more if not as many as Bray, No way was 1,000......750 tops

**gufc2000** · 03/05/2013, 11:29 PM

Extratime estimated 300 in Athlone

**gufcfan** · 03/05/2013, 11:34 PM

60 estimate in Drom from twitter.

**bullit** · 04/05/2013, 3:12 AM

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

This might surprise you, Bull--it,but not everything posted on this Forum is directed at your club. A reasonable question was posed as to whether clubs are maximising other revenue streams from live TV coverage given that most clubs suffer a loss in crowd receipts ( Bohs drop aprox 4-500 from what would be expected if a particular game is not televised)
So, for example, are clubs going out to businesses who don`t usually support them and asking them how much would they pay for 90 minutes of advertising on a Friday evening on RTE2.

Tell me what you reckon.MNS is only on 5 years.Do you imagine everyone at clubs wakening up and saying WOW! we have missed the ball on this one? regarding advertising?
And yes i'm pushing this as a DundalkFC fanatic To me No other club excists on this planet

**bluemovie** · 04/05/2013, 8:37 AM

Originally Posted by avvenalaf

Best example and Galway United in the same sentence? Hmmm.........

Galway United are the best example of a club being lauded for employing an ex-con famous for making one of the world's biggest banks go bust, then themselves going bust????

335 at Blues v Longford.