U21 VS Holland, Wednesday 6th 2012

**Dodge** · 25/01/2013, 11:08 AM

3 not on the above list;

Sean McGinty (Manchester United)
Cian Bolger (Leicester)
Chris Forrester (St Patrick's Athletic)

**liamoo11** · 25/01/2013, 11:21 AM

Chronically short up front and loaded with defenders who. Wilkinson who is an under 18 international has made the bench for millwall something o brien hasnt managed. Conor smith has been playing midfield when he has got chances this season and has been injured for last few months.Murray it seems is unfit and playing poorly. Hopefully forrrester gets to play centrally seems strange he has not got a move yet.

**tetsujin1979** · 25/01/2013, 11:53 AM

good to see McHugh in there after playing well with Bradford.

**Predator** · 25/01/2013, 12:01 PM

Good to see McGinty in there are all the talk of him switching to England. Seems like loads of centre halves are included.

Quick guess at a starting XI

McCarey
Doherty/O'Brien, Duffy, McGinty/O'Brien, Williams
O'Sullivan, Sutherland
Forde, Murray, Carruthers
Smith

**Predator** · 25/01/2013, 12:08 PM

Duffy, O'Brien, McGinty, O'Connor, Bolger, Williams, Shaughnessy, McHugh are all centre backs or can play there.

I know O'Brien played a few U19 games at right back and that Williams has played left back but am not 100% on the others.

**bwagner** · 25/01/2013, 2:10 PM

Not that its a bad thing but there is some amount of English/non Irish born players in the youth ranks

**DannyInvincible** · 25/01/2013, 2:54 PM

Originally Posted by Predator

Anyone know much about this guy? http://www.coloradorapids.com/players/shane-oneill
U20 caps for USA according to wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_O...l_%28soccer%29

Interesting. Have we ever had an Ireland-born player (excluding those born in the north) play for another another international side?

**liamoo11** · 25/01/2013, 2:56 PM

Eamon Zayed maybe?

**liamoo11** · 25/01/2013, 2:59 PM

Originally Posted by bwagner

Not that its a bad thing but there is some amount of English/non Irish born players in the youth ranks

The Imperial power cant erode an Irishman's soul thankfully

**DannyInvincible** · 25/01/2013, 3:03 PM

Originally Posted by liamoo11

Eamon Zayed maybe?

Indeed. Zayed slipped my mind. Can't think of many others.

**Charlie Darwin** · 25/01/2013, 3:04 PM

Originally Posted by Predator

Duffy, O'Brien, McGinty, O'Connor, Bolger, Williams, Shaughnessy, McHugh are all centre backs or can play there.

I know O'Brien played a few U19 games at right back and that Williams has played left back but am not 100% on the others.

Williams looks more like a left full than a centre half to me so I imagine that's where he'll be for the foreseeable future.

**Dodge** · 25/01/2013, 3:07 PM

Originally Posted by liamoo11

Eamon Zayed maybe?

Zayed's definitely one. There was a guy who played for the US in the 1990s that was born in Belfast too. Not too many I'd imagine but Im fairly certain there's threads about that subject here

This lad is english bron but pklayed under agea for Ireland. Now playing for Antigua
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keiran_Murtagh

**IsMiseSean** · 25/01/2013, 6:00 PM

Originally Posted by Predator

Duffy, O'Brien, McGinty, O'Connor, Bolger, Williams, Shaughnessy, McHugh are all centre backs or can play there.

I know O'Brien played a few U19 games at right back and that Williams has played left back but am not 100% on the others.

Shaughnessy can play RB, he has played there for Aberdeen this season.
Great to have another Galway man playing for Ireland. Cunningham back in the Senior squad too.
David Connolly used to be the only connection a few years ago

Almost forgot Alan Lee too... Who was in my local on Wednesday for a funeral.

**tetsujin1979** · 25/01/2013, 8:54 PM

isn't David Forde from Galway?

**IsMiseSean** · 25/01/2013, 9:25 PM

Another I forgot....

**Predator** · 26/01/2013, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Williams looks more like a left full than a centre half to me so I imagine that's where he'll be for the foreseeable future.

Yeah, with Cunningham in the senior squad, King is short on left backs at present so I imagine that's where Williams will be. He played at centre back with Egan in the last game against Italy though, as far as I remember, with White at left back.

**liamoo11** · 26/01/2013, 5:44 PM

Originally Posted by Predator

Yeah, with Cunningham in the senior squad, King is short on left backs at present so I imagine that's where Williams will be. He played at centre back with Egan in the last game against Italy though, as far as I remember, with White at left back.

McGinty is another good left full option

**Ol� Ol�** · 26/01/2013, 6:39 PM

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/spor...reilly-1241268

Interview with Callum Reilly. States he qualifies through his Irish grandparents.

**Ol� Ol�** · 26/01/2013, 6:53 PM

Originally Posted by bwagner

Not that its a bad thing but there is some amount of English/non Irish born players in the youth ranks

McCarey- Born in Ireland
McDermott- Irish father
Duffy- Born here
McGinty- English-born
Anthony O'Connor- Born here
Derrick Williams- Not born here but raised here to an Irish mother.
Mark O'Brien- Born here
Matt Doherty- Born here
Joe Shaughnessy- Born here
Carl McHugh- Born here
Cian Bolger- Born here
Callum Reilly- Irish grandparents
John O'Sullivan- Born here
Kane Ferdinand (McGovern)- Irish father
Chris Forrester- Born here
Samir Carruthers- Irish grandparents
Frankie Sutherland- English-born
Aidan Forde- Born here
Connor Smith- Born here
Aiden O'Brien- English-born
Sean Murray- English-born

I wouldn't say there's that high a proportion of these players that are English-born. Furthermore, the two best players (in Trap's eyes), Brady and Hendrick, are in the senior squad and Dublin-born.
And I'm sure Carruthers and Murray playing at their relative levels and at their relative ages did not go unnoticed by the FA's under-age coaches and selectors.