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Thread: England V Republic of Ireland - Wednesday, 29th May 2013 - Friendly

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    Rare headed goal from Long tipped into the corner of the net.

    It's a Long way to tip a rarey.
    There's no way that should've made me chuckle, but it did...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    It was a great cross from Coleman he is the best crosser of the ball we have, probably the best.
    Definitely.
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    In Forde, we have a very competent keeper who probably deserves to be playing at a higher level. In long, we have a very good international class player. In Coleman and Macca we have two young lads of outstanding ability.

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    In Hoolahan...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    In Hoolahan...
    we have a manager who doesn't appreciate his talents!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipp Townie View Post
    There's no way that should've made me chuckle, but it did...

    Thanks, it just kind of came into may head, dunno where from but it does kind of works without forcing it too much.

    you have to think of the 'way' as the method as opposed to the distance then it works really well
    Last edited by tricky_colour; 29/05/2013 at 10:58 PM.

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    Whilst not at all excited by the way we play, I have to hand it to every player who worked their socks off to get that result, that includes the maligned Kelly, Walters, Whelan and St Ledger. I'm more than content with not losing that game and the effort it took not to lose.

    I wouldn't beat my brow over a litter of mistakes that led up to the England goal, that started with a poor kick out from Forde and ended with Lampard's excellent piece of skill. Our defenders in general had a good game against much better players. We didn't ask enough questions from the English defence, apart from a few times, eg McGeady skinned his marker on the edge of the box. We finished the game (last 10 minutes or so) well, that's always a good sign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Whilst not at all excited by the way we play, I have to hand it to every player who worked their socks off to get that result, that includes the maligned Kelly, Walters, Whelan and St Ledger. I'm more than content with not losing that game and the effort it took not to lose.

    I wouldn't beat my brow over a litter of mistakes that led up to the England goal, that started with a poor kick out from Forde and ended with Lampard's excellent piece of skill. Our defenders in general had a good game against much better players. We didn't ask enough questions from the English defence, apart from a few times, eg McGeady skinned his marker on the edge of the box. We finished the game (last 10 minutes or so) well, that's always a good sign.
    At the risk of Stutts having a pre-bed rant when he gets back from Wembley, would you have swapped that composure in the last 10 min for the last 10 v Austria and lost tonight and beaten them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    In Hoolahan...
    We have a real classy player. Unfortunately, under Trap, we won't see much of Wes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    At the risk of Stutts having a pre-bed rant when he gets back from Wembley, would you have swapped that composure in the last 10 min for the last 10 v Austria and lost tonight and beaten them?
    Are you having another delusion of the Almighty, Bonnie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    At the risk of Stutts having a pre-bed rant when he gets back from Wembley, would you have swapped that composure in the last 10 min for the last 10 v Austria and lost tonight and beaten them?
    Bonnie, you got me thinking. Could the composure shown tonight be because we know England's style of play and the players involved? Our style of play is defensive and lacks creativity and when up against more offensive, creative teams, we don't have the mindset to cope. I am not suggesting Austria are any world beaters , but it is not the first time our composure has gone missing at crucial times.

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    A few observations from the match:

    Coleman's cross and Long's header were superb. I don't think Long offers enough of a goal threat, but for a team like ours who make so few chances, Long's ability to get to crosses first and to win free kicks from nothing is invaluable. He has to start.

    Initially I thought England's goal was split fault between Sledge and Whelan. However, I think any frontline defender like Sledge can make an error like that, whereas failing to keep track of your man is unforgiveable. Am I being too harsh on Whelan/light on the doc?

    McCarthy played well but every time he had the ball he was surrounded by two English players. We don't have enough midfielders to offer him an out ball, which means too often he is looking to play balls back to the centre halves or full backs, and apart from Coleman they don't offer good enough distribution. Whelan is a passenger.

    I love Robbie and he played his heart out again tonight in an unselfish role, but I really don't think we can cope against a packed midfield like that with two strikers. He needs to adapt his game to being an impact player rather than starting every game. Trouble is, without him we lack a natural finisher, because Long isn't it.

    We need two proper wingers and a box to box midfielder. Too often we saw McGeady and then McClean break but find absolutely nobody in support and they had to check back when they had the beating of their man. Most teams won't have players as pacey as Walcott and Oxlaide Chamberlain to cover, but we still need more to transition from defence to attack. We are set up to counter attack but don't have the players to do it.

    Forde is the goalkeeper we've been looking for. I can't tell you how much of a relief it is after a decade and a half of Given to have a goalkeeper who will come and claim every single cross, and he's a good shot-stopper too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    A few observations from the match:

    Coleman's cross and Long's header were superb. I don't think Long offers enough of a goal threat, but for a team like ours who make so few chances, Long's ability to get to crosses first and to win free kicks from nothing is invaluable. He has to start.

    Initially I thought England's goal was split fault between Sledge and Whelan. However, I think any frontline defender like Sledge can make an error like that, whereas failing to keep track of your man is unforgiveable. Am I being too harsh on Whelan/light on the doc?

    McCarthy played well but every time he had the ball he was surrounded by two English players. We don't have enough midfielders to offer him an out ball, which means too often he is looking to play balls back to the centre halves or full backs, and apart from Coleman they don't offer good enough distribution. Whelan is a passenger.

    I love Robbie and he played his heart out again tonight in an unselfish role, but I really don't think we can cope against a packed midfield like that with two strikers. He needs to adapt his game to being an impact player rather than starting every game. Trouble is, without him we lack a natural finisher, because Long isn't it.

    We need two proper wingers and a box to box midfielder. Too often we saw McGeady and then McClean break but find absolutely nobody in support and they had to check back when they had the beating of their man. Most teams won't have players as pacey as Walcott and Oxlaide Chamberlain to cover, but we still need more to transition from defence to attack. We are set up to counter attack but don't have the players to do it.

    Forde is the goalkeeper we've been looking for. I can't tell you how much of a relief it is after a decade and a half of Given to have a goalkeeper who will come and claim every single cross, and he's a good shot-stopper too.
    Just on Forde, Hodgson mentions him in particular for praise in his post match observations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gastric View Post
    Just on Forde, Hodgson mentions him in particular for praise in his post match observations.


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    "England are one of the strongest three, four or five countries in the world," said Republic boss Giovanni Trapattoni.
    Hmm...

    "I am happy from what I saw: James McCarthy, Seamus Coleman. Shane Long was clearly the best on the pitch.
    I think Coleman was the best player on the pitch but at least Trap appears to be acknowledging Long's abilities with the attention they've deserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Whilst not at all excited by the way we play, I have to hand it to every player who worked their socks off to get that result, that includes the maligned Kelly, Walters, Whelan and St Ledger. I'm more than content with not losing that game and the effort it took not to lose.

    I wouldn't beat my brow over a litter of mistakes that led up to the England goal, that started with a poor kick out from Forde and ended with Lampard's excellent piece of skill. Our defenders in general had a good game against much better players. We didn't ask enough questions from the English defence, apart from a few times, eg McGeady skinned his marker on the edge of the box. We finished the game (last 10 minutes or so) well, that's always a good sign.
    It actually started before that with a very poor ball from McCarthy across the backline that ended up behind Coleman (I think) that put us on the back foot.

    Good performance though on the whole. Satisified with it even if Kelly and St Ledger just aren't up to it at this level.

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    A lot of praise for Coleman on the thread and he did play well but his part in the England goal seems to be glossed over or unnoticed. Shocking stuff to let Sturridge wander into the penalty area. It was poor defending, what followed was equally poor but should never have got to that. Sturridge didn't display pace or skill just walked with the ball and Coleman back off and off.

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    Glen Whelan was very poor for the goal Lampard scored.
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    Another 'alternative' English view...
    Surprised cullotty 82 has not already posted, but this thread does feature our rotund friend with their dubious spelling...

    http://www.wsc.co.uk/forum-index/27-...rep-of-ireland

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